stopthatgirl7Aug 15, 2023

Rudy Giuliani, who pioneered the use of RICO when he was a US attorney, just got indicted on RICO charges

Giuliani went from RICO charge prosecutor to a defendant in Fulton County DA Fani Willis' RICO case over Trump's alleged 2020 election interference.

https://www.businessinsider.com/rudy-giuliani-indicted-georgia-trump-rico-2023-8

Rudy Giuliani, who pioneered use of RICO, indicted on RICO charges

Giuliani went from prosecuting RICO cases to being a defendant in Fulton County DA Fani Willis' RICO case over Trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election.

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Show threadPons_AeliusAug 15, 2023

If Giuliani had retired from public life in the years after 9/11 he would have had a positive entry in the history of the USA.

Now?

Well...

Show threadfearAug 15, 2023
The praise he received after 9/11 was how I first heard his name. Shining example of "You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain."
Show threadathos77Aug 15, 2023
My sister lived in New York for a decade before 9/11. You do not want to know what the New Yorkers thought of Guiliani.
Show threadPons_AeliusAug 15, 2023
Yep. The guy has always been a total tool all his life. 9/11 gave him a positive reaction for people outside NYC.
Show threadsalton
All a politician really needed at the time was a half way decent speech pandering to patriotism and you were remembered for being a strong leader at the time.
Aug 15, 2023 at 5:41amWeb
Show threadPiecemakersAug 15, 2023
The fact that you said “at the time” twice makes it impossible not to read your comment in a thick Sopranos accent.
Show threadPons_AeliusAug 15, 2023
Very Observant. The sacred and the propane.