Is contra going lib again?

She’s always been lib, sadly. I still love her content tho! But her political takes are def a little ehh

Can you elaborate? Love her content, wonder if I’m missing anything about her I’m not aware of.

Some internet leftists are anti-jokes and our greatest insult is to call someone a liberal.

our greatest insult is to call someone a liberal

What do you mean by this?

In the US, we use liberal to describe a person who is left of center on the political spectrum, who is not a socialist. And we use conservative or neo-liberal to describe someone right of center.

Is the goal to make fun of people left of center or to make fun of people right of center? I honestly cannot tell from the above conversation. This may simply be regional based confusion on my part.

so, liberalism is decidedly right of centre. it requires buying into capitalism, but it’s not as far gone as the GOP. The US dems are left of the GOP, but right on a more absolutist political meter.

Bernie is leftist, but Biden & co are properly right of centre. Your Overton window has shifted so far to the right that a leftist politician will have a harder path than a snowball in hell.

I say this as someone that has a neolib prime minister (Trudeau).

Suffice to say, liberals and conservatives have the same goals, liberals just prefer a sustainable labour class.

Based on this, I think this is a regional issue. In the US, liberal means left of center.

Here is an example of regional differences.

Here is a wiki page called Liberalism in The United States that also provides a nice summary in the first section.

I would say Bernie is democratic socialist. I would call myself a social democrat, so slightly to the right of Bernie, but slightly to the left of a liberal. I would also say liberals are to the left of moderates who are to the left of conservatives/neo-liberals who are to the left of fascists.

The US Overton window is way to far to the right though.

That’s fine, just understand that you’re using a US-centric framework that differs from what socialists mean when they say “libs”. From our perspective, if you’re pro-western-capitalism (and thus pro-neoliberalism) you’re a lib. Democrats, Republicans, doesn’t matter.