Blaze[Discussion] According to you, what was the most unnecessary and worst sequel of all time?
I’ll start: The Stars Wars postlogy was such a disastrous cash grab that it doesn’t exist in my head cannon.
This whole thing was a mess.
King MongooseBravo! You nailed it.
Thanks ha ha
maegul (he/they)I think I’m still in kinda disbelief that that happened. Like, maybe don’t take me too seriously, but the true sign that the world is going to shit was right there with The Force Awakens. When Star Wars devolved to a totally fluffed up cash grab that we all ate up, that was the sign that we’d lost the plot.
burgersc12I think TFA was the warning. TLJ was the true sign that the end is here
I actually liked TLJ. But we can all probably agree that the rise of skywalker was garbage.
I think everyone hated TROS
thecrotchStar Wars started as a cash grab, you were just too young to notice
I mean sure, in a “Hooker with a Penis” everyone has sold out kinda way.
Jedi and Empire were written specifically around driving toy sales. And the reason we waited for 20 years for the prequels was because Lucas wanted the toy contracts to run out so he could get a bigger slice. Story took a back seat to merchandise from the very beginning. The man practically invented selling out.
What if the Jedi returned… and then were wiped out off-camera? And the Republic returns, and is blown up by a single big boom boom blast? What if everything is reset because Abrams bashes other people’s toys together while making explosion sounds until they break?
They were far better than the prequels and original ones
bledleyLost Boys 2 is pretty tragic. Dunno about worst ever… but first thing that sprung to mind. Those sequels are rough and capture none of the magic of the original. They shouldn’t have bothered.
Less of a sequel, but all the remakes of 80s/90s classic movies are awful and do nothing but bastardize the legacy of some incredible pieces of art. The Karate Kid, Total Recall, and Point Break top the list.
WittyProfileName2 [she/her]Halloween.
Executives butchered what was gonna be an anthology series because they saw Michael Myers as a marketable villain. So now every film in the series has gotta be the same thing again and again with the same monster doing the same things, ad infinitum.
Now I come to think of it that’s, like, pretty much the entire mainstream of the horror genre isn’t it?
What about Halloween 3??
Halloween 3 is (imho) worse than Halloween, but it is better than the other sequels because it does try to be something different.
that’s, like, pretty much the entire mainstream of the horror genre isn’t it?
Yep which is exactly why I’m not into most horror movies. It feels like there are about 5 horror movies that have all been remade 10,000 times each.
Terminator 3
AndreyAsimowAs bad as it was, it had its good moments.
UKFilmNerdTerminator 3 was fun and I genuinely liked how it ended.
Salvation is ok for the most part, purely because I’ve always wanted to see more of the Future War.
Genisys was just terrible and the marketing ruined the big twist of the whole film. Plus Jai Courtney isn’t the best actor and I can’t believe I checked the time on my watch during a Terminator film.
Apart from the impressive opening sequence, Dark Fate wasn’t that good either.
Jordan LundFaraway, So Close!
Wings of Desire is one of my all time top 10 movies, as tempting as it was to make a sequel, it never should have happened. It definitely should not have had a pie fight.
Original:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wings_of_Desire
adam_yGeorge W Bush
Even the original stunk on ice! 🤣 That vision thing.
Matrix: Resurrections
Totally unnecessary sequel to a not so great 3rd part of a great franchise.
I felt unsafe watching it the whole time.
So true
I went in after not having watched any matrix movies in a very long time, and enjoyed it. I think people overprepared for the movie by watching all matrix movies back to back, and the movie ended up recapping the previous movies for 1/3rd of the runtime. It’s a true reboot for a new generation where you don’t need to have watched any of the previous movies. It’s enough if you just knew about them. That’s what I think.
I went in not expecting anything good of it (I think I had an intuitive hunch about exactly where it was going to come from) and ended up really enjoying it. I wouldn’t really recommend it to anyone and don’t think it’s “good” … but as a long time Matrix fan I feel like I could get where the film was coming from, and while watching it in the cinema, that was a unique experience.
Also, the idea of the new matrix being based not on consent to a fantasy but constantly unmet but tantalising satisfaction … I felt that and it was a good extension to the trilogy IMO.
GiddyHighlander 2 was ssssssssssooooooooooooo bad.
I was told there could be only one.
They LIED
Every home alone past 2, every terminator past 2, the latest Matrix practically apologizes for it’s own existence. Examples are too numerous, the entire hyperreality we exist in is built on pointless repetition and self-cannibalization.
Our world is running out of resources to turn out profit, so it had started digesting itself and feeding us it’s over-processed and over-produced communion, like a sleezy street-food vendor dousing his meats in spices, so we don’t smell how spoiled their paska is.
That is why everything revolves around the nostalgia: it’s not us who are stuck in the past, it’s our culture experiencing rigor mortis, and we treat it as the final chance to see it’s original form, as if the chicken is our tavuk durum hasn’t been rotting since yesterweek.
Wow, the most nihilist answer possible in response to a question about movies…
Boondock Saints ,2
Oh, jesus, I just remembered!..
The cute but completely and totally unnecessary A Christmas Story Christmas!
Fun to watch once, but definitely not a “rewatch every Christmas” kind of fun movie. So much bad crap just happens over and over again and it just doesn’t feel like a happy story!
I’m in the minority but I don’t even watch the original anymore. It’s dated even if people act like it isn’t.
Give some bad Santa / Jim Carey’s Grinch any day of the week.
Bonus unpopular opinion: Mariah Carey’s “all I want for Christmas” is not a Christmas song. Not in the traditional sense. Not at all.
KushanThere are only two Shrek films.
Ghostbusters 2
aaron_griffinYou take that back
I love it (I LOVE the ghostbusters, any iteration. I even own 2016 on bluray–don’t crucify me), but it’s not a good movie.
No one seemingly remembers a giant marshmallow man attacking the city and ghosts running wild? The ghostbusters have disbanded and two of them now do kids parties, instead of hailed as heroes ushering in a new era of proof of life after death? Venkman and Dana split, negating all their chemistry from the first (and making him seem like an even bigger asshole), but then end up back together anyways? It’s a giant reset and redo, with Stay Puft replaced by… Oy, the statue of liberty. Even as a kid, I was like “the statue of liberty isn’t an action figure. It doesn’t have joints and can’t walk.”
Rumor has it the creative team tanked it on purpose to get out of more sequels and whether true or not, it definitely worked.
But the courtroom scene is amazing!
Even though it’s obviously a completely shallow copy of the original, is still a fun watch for the following reasons:
- All of Egon’s lines.
- All of Venkman’s lines.
- Peter MacNicol’s character.
- The whole “World of the Psychic” scene
- The whole courtroom scene (as you mentioned).
- The overall concept of the haunted painting is pretty fun, but I think in combination with the mood slime idea it overcomplicates things. However, there are some fun moments with the slime.
- Louis and Jeanine’s romance has some funny dialogue, though that storyline kind of wastes time that could’ve been spent on more fun supernatural stuff.
No one seemingly remembers a giant marshmallow man attacking the city and ghosts running wild?
We had COVID running while and a large number of people were pretending it wasn’t happening. We have a f’n war going on in Europe and it’s treated like little more than some minor annoyance. And that’s while they it is happening. People going back to normal after a big event is over and cleaned up is pretty believable, especially when there are no more ghosts floating around.
Also it’s not like everybody forgot forever, the people of the city come together at the end for a song.
“the statue of liberty isn’t an action figure. It doesn’t have joints and can’t walk.”
They sprayed it up with slime real well. That’s actually a part I really like about Ghostbuster2, all the tools and slime have pretty well established functions. Vigor is also a way more impressive villain than Gozer, which I always found rather unimpressive to say the least.
The Sting is a near-perfect movie which wraps up an entire story, spawning an entire genre of copycat clever-twisting ensemble movies. It wasn’t the first movie aboutthe grift, but it was the best.
Sting 2 shared similar characters.
Conan the destroyer. The first movie (Conan the barbarian) was absolutely amazing, the second one was a cheap cash grab about some super team setting out to save a girl from an evil bad guy.
American Psycho 2.
Yeah, there’s a direct to video “sequel”
Steal WoolIsn’t that girl from that 70s show in it?
I know this is probably one of those ‘fun facts’ that everybody knows but learning that it wasn’t written or made as a sequel and the studio shoehorning that in after the fact to market it makes it a lot less atrocious. It’s still not a great movie but not as offensive as it would’ve been had it been made as a sequel from the beginning.
It was kind of fun watching Jackie strangle a dude with a condom.
The Starship Troopers sequels. Which don’t exist, but if they did they would be awful enough to pretend they don’t.
In that vein:
Romeo and Juliet II: Friar Lawrence Strikes Again
Romeo and Juliet II: Friar Lawrence Strikes Again
You scared me. Don’t do that.
Mardoniush [she/her]I had a terrible dream where a Sky Marshal had a full dance number.
R.I.P.D. 2
Hear me out. I watched the first R.I.P.D. on a flight, expecting it to be enjoyably bad, but it wasn’t. Instead, it was just enjoyable. The whimsical lore of combining ancient prophecy with modern people and boring bureaucracy was pretty funny. Was it an absolutely fantastic movie? No, but it was good.
The sequel, however, explored none of the above any further. Instead, it tried to replace all that with a much more dramatic tone. So when I watched this one on the flight back, it wasn’t even enjoyably bad. It was just simple and dull.
ElPussyKangarooI only found out about the first one recently and was pleasantly surprised at Ryan Reynolds’ ability to keep me watching.
I was not ready to hear about a sequel.
OrangeAnchorman 2. The first is such a great movie start to finish with so many legendary quotable lines. The second could never have compared to the original. Sticking with Will Ferrell, I really hope noone ever gets the idea to make a Step Brothers 2.
Zoolander 2
yessikgPacific Rim 2
davefischerBlues Brothers 2000