SSTFRemember your training and you will survive
aportDon’t be a lazybones
I am going to print this and plaster it at Walmart.
Why? This is a scene from a satirical movie parodying fascism
Not exactly. The government in starship troopers is nationalistic, but not fascist; it's a limited meritocratic democracy, people still have power but only those that earn the power (somewhat like the Roman Republic but that's a whole other story filled with socii and quasi-autonomy).
The Politics of Starship Troopers
alternative_factor"satrship troopers" the book is blatantly fascist, Heinlein became a fascist in his later years.
"Starship Troopers" the movie IS a parody of fascism, Verhoeven literally based the Starship Trooper's symbols on Nazi iconography.
"Although some contemporary critics and audiences considered Starship Troopers to be an endorsement of fascism, Verhoeven said, "whenever you see something that you think is fascist, you should know that the filmmakers agree with your opinion."
Also Sargon is just a fascist puppet.
The book was a commentary on fascism. Not a celebration of it.
I thought that when I read it too, but I asked my folks and they were big scifi fans at the time, and it's unironic.
wikipedia also says its unironic, for what its worth:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starship_Troopers#Criticism_of_militarism
If you read Heinlein's wikipedia page it also checks out:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_A._Heinlein#Views
wikipedia also says its unironic, for what its worth:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starship_Troopers#Criticism_of_militarism
If you read Heinlein's wikipedia page it also checks out:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_A._Heinlein#Views
Ha I also asked my dad about it maybe 10-15 years ago. He’s a huge scifi fan and I tore through his library of asimov, Heinlein, silverberg, Anderson, etc as a teen 10 years before that. He remains convinced that it’s a satire from a conservative about dangerous conservatism. Which is funny to write as a lefty
Heinlein also wrote characters who spoke approvingly of their hyperlibertarian society in The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.
I think his politics aren’t so easy to pin down.
Sure they are.
Militarist liberal, shaped by his experience in the US Navy during WW2. He’s been accused of thinking of the ideal military officer as a modern warrior-poet.
People who call him an outright fascist are simply wrong, though he meant Starship Troopers seriously. The movie was written and directed as satire, by a director who never finished the very short novel, so don’t consider it as a source of Heinlein’s views.
While he puts military service on a pedestal, the most fascistic element of the work is probably his endorsing of “citizenship through service,” ie you have to earn your vote through a year or whatever of government service. In the movie it’s implied as military only, the book makes it clear you can also do civil service.
That is probably the most common misunderstanding of the novel, even Wikipedia claims it is military only.
I guess it depends what meaning of “liberal” you go by. In the US he would not be a liberal at all (in the sense of a Hubert Humphrey).
He was consistent career-long in hating a few things as far as I can tell : prudery, collectivism, and slavery (although he’d say the last two are redundant).
“Cold warrior libertarian with a frontier fantasy” is I think how I’d try to say it for an American audience,
He himself not only ran as a democrat, but described himself as a radical liberal.
Found the fascist
lmfao, how do you look at this and think: “liberal limited meritocratic democracy”
www.imdb.com/media/rm3136367104/tt0120201
they couldn’t have come close to a Nazi SS uniform other than actually putting a red band with a swastika on.
also as others said, Sargon of Akkad is a fascist cunt.
Yeah but they are only facist against bugs. And bug sympathisers. And anyone who criticizes the armed forces. And any member of the military who disobeys orders.
The government within the book and movie is within the limits of liberal theory, it is meritocratic as civilians must earn their citizenship and have a right to choose not to, and it is a limited democracy in the same vein; not all choose to partake.
The SS uniform is purely from the movie and is purposefully chosen. Sargon of Akkad makes his position pretty clear in the video linked, if you'd bother to watch it; "You love Starship Troopers because you think that when the fascists come, and you are called upon, you will pick up a rifle and do your duty like you know you should... Nowhere in the world at any point in history has man lived lives of such tranquility, abundance, and freedom than under a liberal democracy."
How you get fascist from those sentiments is beyond me.
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I’m doing my part.
RalphWiggumFunniest thing I’ve seen lately.
blackluster117He got the spirit.
A friend of mine worked at Target and he said the best part of the day was collecting carts.
Your friend lied or y’all don’t live in the south bc I fuckin HAAAAATEEEDD that shit
Hey it’s that or customers, I always wanted the trolley job. Only got to do it once when the usual guy was sick. Didn’t have to talk to a soul, could use my iPod. The day went so much faster.
Especially in the heat of summer. I feel bad for the cart wranglers when I see them going around the parking lot in the middle of the day.
What my man Edric here says is facts bc doing that in the summer or the winter is balls.
It’s ok ish spring and late fall but between our car delivery people and the cart people two of them got hit by a car within 6 months or so.
I’d much rather keep my annoying ass spot in electronics than be constantly pinching my fingers on carts and finnicking with the stupid cart wrangler controller
The thing is, you still have to have someone collect them even when they’re in their proper spot you just don’t have parking spaces that could have had a car them filled with a shopping trolley, or trolleys rolling off and hitting parked cars. You also make that trolley guy’s day better by not making them have to pull the trolleys from places they aren’t supposed to be.
I used to work at a supermarket and agree that the trolley collection was by far the best job but I still hate those motherfuckers that leave their trolley just anywhere especially in otherwise valid parking spots.
If less cars are able to park at the shops that’s a win. We need to get people out of cars.
NeshuraCrippling cars is not the solution to that problem, making better alternatives usable is.
Both. But the getting people out of cars is more important in the immediate term because cars are killing the earth
Alright but think about that for a minute here. The trolley is in a parking space… Because someone was loading the shopping in to their car and just left the trolley there inconsiderately. So like, they drove their car to the shops and did that. You could maybe add this to the list of measures to encourage alternative means of transport, but it’s certainly a funny way to go about it, sort of like just going out and driving so badly that it’s impossible for anyone else to be on the roads with you. Bit of a slash and burn approach, certainly morally compromised. Maybe it’d be for the greater good in some infinitesimally small way but I think it’d be hard for people to see it as particularly heroic more than what is more aptly describable as being an asshole.
Some people load up a trolley to fill their cargo bike
Greatly depends on the time of day, and the environment.
Cool breeze and an off hours so things are quiet and still? Yeah that’s not a bad way to spend 15-45 minutes. Middle of the summer when it’s 85F (30C) outside or middle of a downpour freezing water? Not so great. And don’t even get me started on blizzard conditions or people shoving carts up onto the grass cause the extra 20 steps to the cart corral was just too much.
Based and cart-pilled
xavier666I am extremely intrigued by this. Is it possible to know more?
When encountering an aggressive shopping cart, remember:
Shoot off a limb and they’re still 86% combat effective. Here’s a tip: Aim for the nerve stem and put it down for good…
What part of a shopping cart is the nerv stem? The coin thingie?
The only good shopping cart, is a dead shopping cart.
Go for the door at the back. Its contents will spill out and it won’t have the momentum to hurt you anymore.
If you see two out in the field, drag two back and use one for shopping, saves at least an extra life per turn.
I’m doing my part.
A mark of a true gentleman is the consideration that they give to others without anyone forcing them to do it.
I, too, wait until im outside the frozen yogurt place to fart up a storm.
jackpotshopping cart logic also applies to buying fairtrade coffee or chocolate or clothes, no one will force you to be a good person and you gain jackshit from it as a lone operator.
The shopping cart one is better because it’s literally just barely more time / effort. Fair trade stuff can be expensive compared to their counterpart. People in rougher financial situations really can’t make that choice every time.
alright then dont buy it, youre acting like coffee and chocolate are necessities. clothes are a pass
I’d wager there are daily goods that have far more exploitation than most people would be comfortable with.
But you are right in some cases things aren’t necessities and could probably be limited or cut out. That being said, there’s a morale / mental component too. For example, you don’t need that chocolate birthday cake for your sibling, parent, child, etc., but it is still is considered very important. If it wasn’t there, it could be considered a huge blow and/or insulting.
jimmydoreisaleftyI’ve heard a counter to this argument, some comedians also.
Basically, creates jobs for cart collector and for people to pick up cloths and random stuff left around.
It.was a funny take, but not sure how true or false it is…