AesthesiaphiliaYou're missing the fact that he's a Republican shill and even if he said he'd give us universal healthcare, ban all fossil fuels, and end all student debt, it doesn't mean a damn thing because he's a liar and grifter. He's trying to ride the "I'm a stupid conspiracy theorist bothesideser" train to get payouts from his Republican masters.
I know Biden promised student debt reduction and failed to deliver. Would that make him a liar in your eyes? How do you know rfk is a liar and a grifter?
Begone, sealion!
Ad homenims are great but you should reflect on the failings of Bidens presidency. Inflation, student debt relief, ending child tax credit, no answer on abortion. He is a weak candidate on all fronts of economic, social, and cultural issues. He is metaphorically and physically dying. We need and deserve a better candidate.
No, we need Republicans to stop being obstructionist. We need Republicans to stop lying and actually govern rather than fap about with culture wars. Maybe you paid a little more attention to anything except the front page media, you’d know more about the inflation reduction act just passed, the constant lawsuits stopping student debt relief, and, how even though Biden personally is against abortion, he is still fighting for abortion rights
Oh, I didn’t realize the inflation reduction act of 2022 is working that well for you. July cpi rose 3.2%. Grocery bill is 4.2% higher than last year. I hope you got a better raise than 4.2%. Maybe you are ok with accepting those excuses you are giving for him. I’m not even sure why you would be. It’s as though we’re saying we can’t do any better.
Flying SquidThe inflation reduction act? The one which was altered so that Republicans would vote for it? The thing you said Biden should do with student loans?
Make up your mind.
gamermanhFailed to deliver*
*Because of conservative fuckery
Wonder why you’d leave that out…
I suppose incompetence to deliver a policy that is immune to republican assault is a more generous interpretation of the events than labeling him a liar. I should have asked is he a liar for merely incompetent? Failure to deliver is the same nonetheless.
Wow… That’s just nuts. I’m sorry, but seriously. With “I vow to kill any bill that a Democrat proposes” McConnell, it’s all Biden’s fault. Uh huh.
He made a promise and did it through executive action, which failed. To be fair he has time to remedy the situation so we’ll see on that front. But are we just gonna blame the republicans for everything? It sounds as if he has no agency and is controlled by the republicans. What would it take for you to think this failure to deliver, if materialized, is on Biden?
What student debt forgiveness policy would be ‘immune to Republican assault’ in both the Republican-led house and the ultra-conservative SCOTUS? Let’s hear your ideas.
norbertOh cool someone JuST AskINg a QuEsTion, this person definitely cares and is asking seriously. Instead of looking into RFK they've decided it's better to use the "but what-about!?" tactic.
The question just as well could have been an opportunity for people to coherently show just how evil rfk is. I’m not even advocating for rfk. It’s strange to me that rather than showing to the world how rfk is a prunicious liar, people choose to argue on the tangential point of a comparison. I think it is good to have a consistent epistemic standard. Be open and honest and let the truth prevail.
It's not my job to explain repeatedly how RFK is a spoiler candidate. It's not my job to handhold every asshat that says "well what about..." because they lack the ability to think critically or use reason.
I'm tired of explaining why the right wing is fucking evil. Only the willfully ignorant subscribe to their BS at this point. You'll never convince someone of a point if they're arguing in bad faith, you'll just waste your time.
If it's that important to you, feel free to engage and have a good conversation with them.
Rfk is a dem primary candidate, so how can he be a spoiler candidate at this point in the race? Maybe I am the asshat misunderstanding what you mean by spoiler candidate, but that’s nonsense to me.
You may well be convinced. I’m not, so I wonder what it is that convinced you.
He's a "dem primary candidate" the same way Bloomberg was in 2016 eh?
He's a milquetoast ruling-class elite, practically American royalty. He's there to water down the democratic field by diluting it with pseudo-rightwing talking points, to spoil the field (by taking up space, airtime, attention, etc) for a further left candidate all while being a nice safe liberal carrying the same water they all do. Give him enough time and he'd probably start talking about supply side economics.
I don’t think it’s a bad thing to throw out more policy goals to measure what the Dem base wants. It sounds like you see it as taking away attention. I see it as battling it out to find better policy sets for the nominee to run on. Battle of ideas is the liberal thing to do in my mind. Besides, what is he taking away attention from? What do you think is more important than figuring out what the Dem base will rally and vote for?
On the politico article, he gets 100k out of the known 4.3mil from candidates that donated to republicans in prior elections. That’s less than 2.5%. Is that the issue for you? That some people who donated one way are now donating another way? I don’t understand that notion. Wouldn’t you want to be able to convince people to switch sides? Or are you saying the fact that he’s only convinced a mere 2.5% shows he’s entirely unconvincing to the purple voters base?
Unless I’m missing something the definition you provided on spoiler effect isn’t applicable because he won’t be on the ballot if he loses the primary.
Unless I’m missing something the definition you provided on spoiler effect isn’t applicable because he won’t be on the ballot if he loses the primary.
You are, the definition doesn't say anything about it needing to be a primary, a candidate with questionable intentions can easily spoil coalitions built during caucusing. I'm not sure what novel policy you think he's bringing to the table, I don't believe he's put forth any policy worth talking about to the Democratic party at all. He's vocally anti-vax and anti-choice, two non-starters for me and many on the left, the right seems to like them; maybe he should try talking to them.
I don't believe he has anything to offer, additionally (and this is is a perfect example of why) I think we need to get all the old-money boys network out of office and out of government. He needs to go relax with his wealth and family name on an island somewhere and let the citizenry get to the business of running the country before we start to look a little too closely as his family-money and consider the traditional solution to dilettante aristocracy.