RFK Jr. says he’d sign a federal ban on abortions after three months of pregnancy

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RFK Jr. says he’d sign a federal ban on abortions after three months of pregnancy - Lemmy.world

The stance puts Kennedy — who’s mounting long shot bid to unseat President Joe Biden as the Democratic standard bearer in 2024 — out of step with most of his party.

This POS needs to disappear.
Agreed
It’d be a real shame if he suffered any consequences from promoting anti-vaccine nonsense and mingling with crowds who buy into that ridiculous bullshit. A real shame, definitely not a cause for celebration or well-hydrated asparagus-fueled pilgrimages to his future grave.
He’s a Kennedy, just wait a little while.
The results will be mind-blowing
I pitty the person that has to pick up the pieces
Nothing bad ever happens to the Kennedy’s
Nothing bad even happens to the Kennedy’s
Completely unrelated question, what’s your favorite punk band?
I don’t know, but suddenly I’m thinking of a dessert and Africa.
I see you cello feeble little horse fan

This is the best summary I could come up with:

DES MOINES, IOWA— Longshot Democratic presidential candidate and conspiracy theorist Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said Sunday that he would support a national ban on abortion after the first three months of pregnancy if elected.

“I believe a decision to abort a child should be up to the women during the first three months of life,” Kennedy told NBC News in an interview at the Iowa State Fair here.

The stance puts Kennedy — who’s mounting a controversial bid to unseat President Joe Biden as the Democratic standard bearer in 2024 — out of step with most of his party at a time when abortion access has been a sustained motivator for voters.

Kennedy defended running as a Democrat, despite espousing multiple typically-conservative talking points during the 15-minute interview.

For instance, Kennedy said he would not have voted to support the Inflation Reduction Act, among the biggest Democratic policy wins of Biden’s first term.

Kennedy steeply trails Biden in the polls and has been dogged by controversy during his few months as a candidate, including repeated disinformation about the efficacy of vaccinations and deaths during the Covid-19 pandemic, as well as allegations of anti-Semitic remarks.

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The bot isn’t normally called that.
I’m not saying people are worshipping AI bots yet, but it’s coming.
I guess he’s angling purely for the Catholic vote?
He’s angling purely for the fame. Everyone knows he’s not getting the votes to win.
Funny, I’d been in favor of Religious participation being legal only for adults 18 and older.

Japan passed a law similar to that.

I actually prefer it. Let a child participate if they want to. And if they don’t and you make them, you’re in trouble.

Forced participation in religious activities to be classified as child abuse in Japan

Telling children they will go to hell for not joining religious activities will be regarded as abuse. Read more at straitstimes.com. Read more at straitstimes.com.

The Straits Times

That’s an interesting idea.

I feel like we need to start putting teenagers in a separate category for a lot of reasons - that’s the age where people start to search for meaning and often look outside their parents for their identity

Religion can be that for a lot of people - getting away from religion is that for others. Religion isn’t just God - it’s community, it’s history, it’s culture

I think teens should have rights like religious freedom - it’s crazy to give a child no autonomy until they’re 18, then make them responsible for their life after they’ve often spent their most formative years having every decision made for them

(Ironically, some religions incorporate a coming of age ceremony around 13)

Ironically, some religions incorporate a coming of age ceremony around 13

Correct, but that isn’t a hard line where age matters if it is held at 18 instead. I think the biggest issue is Roman Catholics that force 12 year olds to pledge to be Catholic for life or be excommunicated from the church forever. That is an adult choice and no child should be forced to make.

Why isn’t he running as a Republican??? Is he just trying to the split the vote? I don’t understand at all
100% trying to split the Democratic vote
Gonna sound a bit conspiracy-laden but bear with me. His rhetoric is entirely republican from top to bottom and his demographics are nearly identical to trump’s. He may be attempting to poach citizen citrus’s audience without earning his ire. Desantis has run afoul of trump by running against him and has been disparaged heavily by trump as a result, but running as a democrat defuses RFKjr in trump’s eyes. The worst Kennedy released a book full of crazy and made a fair sum of money off of it, and may just want to continue his grift on a bigger crowd. Regardless, his choice to run as a democrat is bad for Biden.
I do agree with his quote the article ends with. He’s making it even more weird though.
He's being bankrolled by a republican donor. I have no idea who this guy is appeals to.
Republicans are hoping his name will split the Democratic vote.
Republicans think that Democratic voters are as stupid as Republican voters.

I hope they're wrong. They're wrong, right? ... :-\

Also, how is a Republican running as a Democrat? Is it just me thinking there's a glaring flaw in the US's political mechanics? Y'know, just the one. Nothing else wrong there. ...Other than seemingly literally everything, with exactly zero hope of any meaningful change no matter what goes wrong nor how wrong it goes. sigh

Because they are. There’s no difference between the two parties because neither makes the rules. The absolute state of burgers ffs it’s no wonder we’re turning into a shit hole
Go home, Russian propaganda.
Everything I disagree with is Russian propaganda: Burgers guide to political discourse
Not everything, but "deep state, bOTh SidEs" bullshit is, Russian propaganda.
How can you look at the last 2 years vs. the 4 before that and claim the parties are the same?
Basically are in terms of quality of life for nearly all Americans. At least with Biden and Trump- some other candidates would likely be different.
How many Americans know someone who died from COVID or is suffering from long COVID (or are themselves)? Because Trump is responsible for a hell of a lot of that. Biden is not.
You’re intentionally misconstruing my statement. They’re the same in that neither runs the country; plutocrats run the country. And if you don’t understand this simple, fundamental truth, your mind will forever be enslaved.
With this announcement on his stance on abortion, I think that idea is out the window.
I dunno. It didn’t seem to hamper Henry Cuellar.
Henry Cuellar’s success in his district in Texas isn’t indicative of anything at all on a national level.
It indicates that party leadership will abandon any principle to shut out progressives.
Down voters apparently aren’t aware that the national Democratic party will back an anti choice candidate in order to prevent a progressive from taking the seat.
Or they all like anti-choice candidates.
No, it doesn’t. Democrats in red states have a much higher likelihood of being closer to Republicans stances in order to get elected.
It’s so nice that the national party has to step in to save us from ourselves. Otherwise we might elect a progressive instead of the anti-choice candidate they prefer.

Is it your belief that Joe Biden is “anti-choice?”

Because he is 100% the pick of the Dem Party

It’s my belief that the party will abandon any principle to shut out progressives, and Coathanger Cuellar shows that.
That’s silly, since there is literally a progressive Dem caucus, and it has more.mwmbwrs in 2023 than in the past 60 years.
The party doesn’t always succeed in shutting out progressives. They’re just willing to prop up anti-choice candidates if that’s what it takes. Congratulations on Cuellar.
The funny thing is that he’s mostly going to get Republican votes if he runs third-party.
Meanwhile I think he’s more likely to siphon Republican votes than Democratic votes if he were to run third party.
GOP religious elites trying to move the Overton window on social matters.
First time I’ve ever heard of the Overton window. Kind of picked it up with context but if anyone feels like doing further reading
Overton window - Wikipedia

Ten Thousand

xkcd
But I’m 35… According to this I should’ve learned about it 5 years ago, what’s wrong with me? Am I an abomination?

I don’t know, do you look like this?

Disillusioned “open minded” republicans like my brother for one. He was telling me that Dems should run him to appeal to anti-Trump Republicans to prevent Trump from winning. He’s a pretty smart guy who somehow got convinced that JAQing off is a good basis for philosophical thought and denies that he has any firm beliefs and is open to anything that he thinks sounds convincing.