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What is the worst US state to live in generally?

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What is the worst US state to live in generally? - Sopuli

I’m aware that, at the moment, Florida is deemed unsafe for people to travel to, but what is generally the worst state to live in? Factors such as education, religious extremism, crime, cost of food, healthcare, and access to other resources are relevant. Will “Deep South” states remain one of the worst places to live in due to traditionalism, or are more progressive states bound to grow worse?

Aug 12, 2023 at 6:21pmWeb
Show threadCookieJarObserverAug 12, 2023
State of injury or mental illness.
Show threadshellsharksAug 12, 2023
Every time ive seen an article about worst state it’s always Mississippi :-/. But these days thanks to awful leadership Florida and Texas are making a case for the crown.
Show threadsharpiemarkerAug 12, 2023

You’re not wrong.

Mississippi is typically ranked very low due to a history of poor public education standards as well as being a battleground for civil rights. Not much has changed.

Fortunately for Mississippi, Florida man is working overtime towards the enshitifcation of their own education system.

There’s absolutely a direct correlation between education, human rights, and a higher standard of living.

Show threadBurntPunkAug 12, 2023
Growing up in Alabama we used to joke that the unofficial AL state motto is “Well, at least we ain’t Mississippi” and Mississippi’s motto is “Well, at least we ain’t Missis…AW DAMMIT”
Show threadphiloneousAug 12, 2023
Ditto for Louisiana, it was always “well at least we aren’t Mississippi “.
Show threadTenderfootGungiAug 12, 2023
Louisiana has the highest violent crime rate. It is the last state I would live in.
Show threadRaging LibTargAug 12, 2023

According to the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) program, the 5 most hazardous states in the U.S. in 2023 are:

Louisiana: Overall Crime Rate of 537.5/100,000 people, making it the most dangerous.

Mississippi: Overall Crime Rate of 413.2/100,000 people.

Alaska: Despite a low population, a high Overall Crimes Rate of 386.2/100,000 people.

Arkansas: Overall Crime Rate of 385.9/100,000 people.

New Mexico: Overall Crime Rate of 369.5/100,000 people.(More info about this)

You ain’t kiddin!

Source

Most Dangerous US States 2023 - Stay Safe - Southwest Journal

When discussing the most dangerous states in America, "dangerous" can mean different things. Such as: high crime rates, natural disasters, and poor health outcomes.

Southwest Journal
Show threadjscummyAug 13, 2023
I’ve also heard “Thank God for Mississippi” as a slogan for any of the underperformer states
Show threaduncle_bagelAug 13, 2023
Typically what happens when you rank 51st in most quality of life stats (which usually include DC alongside all 50 states).
Show threadcaptainlezbianAug 12, 2023
Mississippi also just has really bad infrastructure. Like water is a concern in places there
Show threadVanillaGorillaAug 12, 2023
It's a race to the bottom, and Florida isn't here for the second place!
Show threadAnissemAug 12, 2023
We’re all polishing brass on the Titanic
Show threadthe_qAug 12, 2023
Alabama. Hands down.
Show threadSnausagesinaBlanketAug 12, 2023
Texas is full of pissed of GOP’s that are all hot headed and strapped. The excessive heat isn’t helping much.
Show threadftothe3Aug 12, 2023
Have you ever visited Texas? Check out Austin and Dallas. Very different than what you’d expect based on the news.
Show threadsharpiemarkerAug 12, 2023
Not as hot as it sounds?
Show threadreddig33Aug 12, 2023
Depends on the part of Dallas. Some of the suburbs are very conservative (Southlake is an awful place for example).
Show threaddylanmorganAug 12, 2023
I live in Austin, the good isn’t good enough for me to want to stay. As soon as my kids are done with high school, I’m looking for somewhere else to live.
Show threadTastyWheatAug 13, 2023

I’m not from the US, but visited Dallas in 2009. I remember myself and a couple of friends from the area going into a Waffle House.

First thing I saw was a sign on the door saying to leave your guns outside. When we walked in, there was a haggard old waitress with a smokers rasp going “what can I git ya?” and a mulleted stoner in the kitchen with a thousand yard stare. It was like I’d walked into the set of a movie and while we had breakfast my mates were quite amused at how… roadstop I kept saying it was.

Kept waiting for a trucker named Bubba to walk in.

Also in AR a waitress asked me if we had boats in our country, another swore up and down that she had seen me on some Australian renovation show on cable, and while watching TV an episode of Aussie Gold Hunters had subtitles for the Australians even though they were speaking clear as day English.

The South is bizarre.

Show threadeldaviAug 13, 2023

i just left austin because it’s becoming an increasingly facist shithole because anyone with above room temperature iq in austin knows that the state will continue to do everything in its power to reign in austin so they leave; like i did.

the only gem in that place is houston and that is a much bigger target in the texas government’s eyes than austin ever was.

there are holdouts and they will continue to hold out; ineffectually and pointlessly struggling for the rest of their lives.

Show threadSTUPIDVIPGUYAug 12, 2023
The southern states still are the worst and I assume will continue to be the worst due to conservatism
Show threadshastaxcAug 13, 2023
And that will remain true until education improves
Show threadSTUPIDVIPGUYAug 13, 2023
Meanwhile desantis is somehow making Florida’s education even worse
Show threadblazeraAug 12, 2023
Mississippi reigns supreme.
Show threadThrowawayAug 12, 2023
California. Everything gives you cancer.
Show threadtotallynotarobotAug 12, 2023
Wow, people don’t like your joke. I liked your joke.
Show threadphoneymouseAug 12, 2023
It does other places too, they just don’t warn you about it.
Show threadThrowawayAug 12, 2023

So does the air we breathe, the sun we enjoy, and just existing in general. No need to put stickers on everything.

Also, its a joke

Show threadphoneymouseAug 12, 2023

I know, I understand it’s weird and I also made fun of it when I first saw a warning sign in Starbucks that coffee may contain some cancer causing chemical or in the parking garages and carports of apartment complexes that warn about car emissions in enclosed spaces causing cancer.

However, there are people that work in certain professions that may have abnormally high exposure to certain risks and would otherwise not know. In this example, a car attendant or valet might appreciate the warning about working in a parking garage.

I recently learned that those who carve and drill quartz countertops are all having lung issues and dropping dead at 40. I’m sure they wish California had given them one of those silly warnings. Same with the Radium girls. I’m all for erring on the side of caution lest someone find out too late.

Show threadAmidFurorAug 12, 2023
Too many warnings are as good as no warnings. How do you know when it's trivial exposure vs serious?
Show threadThrowawayAug 12, 2023

Ok, out of respect for the effort you just put in, Im going to make an actual counterpoint.

That many stickers and signs don’t do much. It causes alarm fatigue, people ignire them, and so the stickers become useless, just more information to filter out.

Also, that many stickers is bad for the enviroment, just more trash.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alarm_fatigue

Alarm fatigue - Wikipedia

Show threadrebulAug 12, 2023
Turns out, there are stupid questions after all.
Show threadPenguinJuiceAug 12, 2023
Florida is not actually dangerous lol that was just a publicity stunt.
Show threadAlvaroAug 12, 2023
@[email protected] unless you are a book 🤣
Show threadforceAug 12, 2023
Louisiana and Mississippi, no doubt
Show threaddangblingusAug 14, 2023
Florida is expensive?? Damn. Make sure, next time you come on up to the Great White North, bring a couple extra bucks with you.
Show threadforceAug 14, 2023
It’s not nearly as bad as Miami or most of the rest of Florida lol
Show threadTheMusicalFruitAug 12, 2023
Just about any state that boarders the Gulf of Mexico is on my, “would never live in list”. Texas and Mississippi are near the top. I’ve traveled for years in all of those states due to my work and am always relieved to be sent up north or out west.
Show threadRightHandOfIkarosAug 12, 2023

What do you consider in determining the worst?

As a Californian, I’d say California. Cost of living here is ridiculous, and pay isn’t keeping up. Gas at $6/gallon. Electricity bill skyrockets when using A/C, but with temperatures regularly surpassing 85 and being a desert state, we don’t have a choice. Water bill goes up every year because the water company rauses rates after a drought to make up for lost profit and never lowers the price back down after. Fast food meals are now $15 a meal, and store-bought produce isn’t much cheaper. There are car thefts and police chases every single day, often multiple in a day. Despite firearm related laws, there are still armed criminals committing crimes. Our two biggest natural disasters are wildfires and earthquakes, though in recent years there have been a few waterspouts out on the ocean, don’t remember if they ever made landfall or not. Real estate pricing here is out of control. The people here don’t know how to drive, especially in the rain. People are rude and uncaring most of the time. The schools get paid a lot of money but they pay it all out to pensions of retired teachers rather than active working teachers, which means education suffers greatly.

Sure, the weather here is usually nice, and there are a lot of entertainment centers (which are expensive by the way), but aside from that, California isn’t very nice to live in.

The only reasons I still live here are because I am too poor to move away, and my family is still here.

Show threadmikezaneAug 12, 2023

I just drove from California to Yellowstone and back for vacation. The gas prices were pretty close throughout the drive. And fast food costs were the same everywhere.

Also, teachers retirement is paid through Calsters in California. That’s an entirely separate fund in an entirely separate state agency than education. It’s a pension system where the teachers pay in and the state pays as well while they are working like any other private company’s pension system.

Show threadandyburkeAug 12, 2023
How much do you think you'd need to get out? (Asking, in a kidding way, as a Californian who is tired of these memes about how it's bad to live here when you're just describing any major urban center in the world.)
Show threadBilly_GnosisAug 12, 2023
Agree. 100%. Weather is pretty good, if don’t might 100 degrees for 3 months out of the year. Housing, and utility costs are out of control and homelessness and crime are rampant .
Show threadRightHandOfIkarosAug 13, 2023
Oh, yeah I totally forgot about all the homeless. In LA its so bad their tents take up the whole sidewalk of entire blocks. Its sad, but youd think a state as rich as California would have solved it already.
Show threadatempuser23Aug 12, 2023
Where do you live to see prices like that? Gas is 4.80 or so and no fast food is $15. That maybe is a fast casual restaurant.
Show threadRightHandOfIkarosAug 13, 2023

ARCO nearby is at $5.99/gal for Premium. Shell across the street is $5.79/gal Premium.

Yesterday went to Carl’s Jr and ordered two Super Star w Cheese meals, no additional items and had to pay $32, so Id say pretty close to $15 per meal.

Orange County, where these prices would be expected.

Show threadatempuser23Aug 13, 2023

Sounds like you live in an expensive pocket, like near beach or a special neighborhood.

Use google to find gas near you it lists out prices . I was just in garden grove yesterday. Gas was 4.80 to 5.20. If you are driving a sports car that needs premium gas your going to pay more to enjoy more .

I took my extended family out in garden grove , 7 people for dinner at $130 before tip to a decent sit down place. McDonalds and Taco Bell at 6-10 for a meal.

Even near Disney in Anaheim prices are better than you listed out. I can grab a full meal at Denny’s for about 12-15.

When I first moved to ca I lived in a cool community where I could afford rent. Daily life was so expensive I was riding the bus an hour to get groceries.
Now pay more in rent and less in everything else in a boring place. Moving a few miles will make a difference for you.

Show thread1irdAug 14, 2023
Come to Missouri. It’s cheaper and we have legal weed. Plus, the more sane people the better.
Show threadScrollinMyDayAwayAug 12, 2023
It’s always the southern states that rate lowest in damn near every category.
Show threadBilly_GnosisAug 12, 2023
California
Show threadflossdailyAug 13, 2023
Have the Midwest states been mentioned? Bill Bryson describes them as interminably dull. Not sure how they’d stack up against the deep south, though.
Show threadBrokenToYAug 13, 2023
Dull vs Dangerous
Show threaduncle_bagelAug 13, 2023
The Midwest states are essentially the top of the bell curve when it comes to quality of life stats. Maybe life isn’t as flashy as the coasts, but there isnt the absolutely ramoant poverty like you find in Appalachia or the deep South.
Show threadNikkiNikkiNikkiAug 13, 2023
Nebraska is the exception, this state has some of the weirdest price of living to wage ratios. For example, in my town you cannot find a job that pays more than minimum wage without commuting to the other towns around you. But the rent is set at a point where you would need to work for $16 to $20 an hour to afford roof AND food. Wild stuff
Show threaduncle_bagelAug 14, 2023
That’s pretty much everywhere at this point. Minimum can’t attain the average cost of an apartment in any state in the country, since it hasn’t been rosen in over a decade. That was true before the pandemic and is doubly so now that rampant inflation has kicked in.
Show threadryathalAug 13, 2023
There’s a lot of corn, but there’s also a lot of good universities, and lots of beer. Not many mountains, but tons of forest and water.
Show threadprofdc9Aug 14, 2023
Well, Bill Bryson might be right. But have you seen the rest of the world? Boring can be good. Be careful what you ask for.
Show thread1irdAug 14, 2023
I moved from Tennessee to Missouri. I like the weather in Missouri and legal weed. Other than that, they’re about the same. Missouri is way flatter. I’d like to go somewhere else but I’m poor. Thankfully I live in a relatively tame political area.
Show threadCoffeeDartAug 13, 2023
Currently… Hawaii
Show threadKalladblogAug 13, 2023
What happened?
Show threadweremacaqueAug 14, 2023
What's become the most deadly wildfire in the United States in the past 100 years, and they still found all of the bodies. 93 people have been confirmed dead so far, but there's at least 100 people missing. They're searching with dogs through the rubble, so those numbers will probably change in the next 24 hours.