Once again for the people at the back. The purpose of public transport is to transport the public. Making money from doing so is a secondary purpose at best.

Noone talks about the profitability of the motorway network. So why do we do the same for public transport?

@quixoticgeek
Lol all motorways have a fee in my country and its private entities that get the cash and monopoly despite it being paid mostly with alot of EU public monies :D its very profitable for the private entities and terrible for everyone else
@suqdiq which country is that ?
@quixoticgeek
Portugal :D it's funny cause if you do Lisbon >> Porto (~300km), the highway tool is easily the most expensive part, more than the fuel !!! :D yay PPP (Public Private Partnership), public puts up the money, private takes the profit for 30 to 40 years
@suqdiq I had pondered visiting Portugal by train. My planning got as far as Madrid and then I had to go for a walk and calm down...
@quixoticgeek
Trains in portugal might be great in about 30 to 40 years....maybe..... :( i dont drive so i wish it was not the case... Spain does have some trains, its a shame we didnt learn from them :p ours are way worse than them and our task arguably easier...
@suqdiq and getting from Portugal into the Spanish network. Is Lisbon and Madrid the only pair of neighbouring European capitals that don't have a direct train connection? (Except for Helsinki)
@quixoticgeek @suqdiq We're just off to Helsinki from Stockholm tomorrow! By ferry 🙂