So when are you getting your land mines and napalm?
I don’t want either. But since I assume you’re implying these are illegal, landmines are legal for citizens to own with either an NFA tax stamp (about $200 each) or with a SOT/FFL (about $600/year) and napalm like substances are easy to produce yourself (I’m not sure on it legal standing, but criminals aren’t exactly concerned with the law).

Ooh ooh ooh, my favorite!

criminals exist and do not follow the law, therefore law should not exist

totally a big smart boy take and definitely NOT smooth brained nonsense

Not what I said. You’re extrapolating what you think someone who is pro gun rights would say.

Not the person you replied to, but I’ll give you a chance. I’m not American, but I do hunt and own guns.

Why are you against the government having a licensing program before giving access to firearms?

The American understanding of rights is that they are inherent and bestowed upon all of not by the government but by right at birth.

We have the right to criticize our government not because they let us but because that’s are right all humans have. Even if the government decided tomorrow that the First Amendment doesn’t apply anymore we would still have that right, because the First Amendment didn’t grant us a right it simply acknowledged the existing right.

If your ability to practice a right is contingent on government approval your rights are being impeded.

Are you equating owning a gun with criticizing the government? Because I’m not seeing the connection.

Owning a gun is the logical step from the natural right to defend your life. If you are under threat of death by another individual, why in the fuck would you ever willingly put yourself at a disadvantage. Does your moral grounds of guns = bad really overvalue the rest of your natural life?

Someone invades your home, you grab a knife, congratulations knives are far more dangerous than a gun for every participant of the struggle and you have now made it statistically more likely to accidentally kill yourself. You use your hands, disadvantaged against someone with a weapon, death.

The point is literally that you have a personal freedom from birth to keep yourself alive and in a world that has afforded us better and better tools to ensure that, use them.

Statistically, having a gun in your home is more dangerous for you and your family, especially if you have young children or teens. A 2014 review in the Annals of Internal Medicine concluded having a firearm in the home, even when it’s properly stored, doubles your risk of becoming a victim of homicide and triples the risk of suicide.3

www.safewise.com/resources/guns-at-home/

Doesn’t sound like an advantage to me.

Does a Gun Make Your Home Safer? | SafeWise

Research shows that having a gun at home does not make us safer. SafeWise looks at the latest studies on gun safety.

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Correlation does not equal causation.

Someone might choose to own a firearm because they feel like they’re at an elevated risk for victimization (ex. they’ve been threatened by a crazy ex) or someone who has suicidal ideation might go out an purchase a firearm for the purpose of commiting suicide. The acquisition of the firearm didn’t cause either preexisting condition.

Please explain why exactly we shouldn’t be doing everything we can to prevent suicide. This should be interesting.
My personal opinion on the matter is that we should target the motivation not the means. People are miserable, isolated, and feel less upwards mobility. We wouldn’t try and solve the issue of people jumping off buildings with suicide nets.
Funny, people like you always say that, and yet when it’s suggested that we massively fund mental health care, people like you always balk at that.

People like me? You literally don’t even know me. And funding health care alone isn’t going to fix the problem we also need economic reform to address the rising wealth disparity in the country.

Please do not try and lump everyone you encounter into boxes as a means of discrediting them. If you have an issue with anything I’ve said that’s perfectly fine, but do not blame me for the actions of others.

I have yet to meet someone who believes gun ownership should be totally unrestricted and unregulated who doesn’t also think we shouldn’t have universal healthcare, but you could be the first.
Having a certain opinion on one topic doesn’t proclude you from having a certain opinion on another topic. You have no duty to adhere to the party lines of political parties you didn’t form.
Interesting way of avoiding what I suggested.

We should but be stripping people of their freedom, and then hide behind the invalid excuse that it could potentially “reduce suicide”.

I can hog tie you in a small dark room, and feed you though a tube. You’ll never be able to kill yourself, so you can NOT object because clearly you’d be evil to not allow me to do everything I can to prevent suicide

Or… and stop me if this is too complicated… we could make it so that it isn’t as easy to buy a gun as it is to buy a plate of pancakes.
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Blocked for bigotry.