JaN0h4ckAug 12, 2023

[image] Both cars fit the same amount of people

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[image] Both cars fit the same amount of people - Feddit

Honestly this is absurd. These death machines shouldn’t be legal in europe. That thing doesn’t even fit in the parking space, even though the parking lot has the biggest spaces in the whole city. The Golf is so small in comparison, it could event hide in front of the engine hood of the truck.

Show threadkarpinteroAug 12, 2023
I’d wager a sizeable number of half-ton pickup trucks are used solely as people movers, i.e. the bed and towing capabilities aren’t utilized. In many countries, trade workers more then manage with light vehicles, like kei trucks in Japan, so I think they’d work for the average weekend warrior too.
Show threadBruceTwarzen
What always gets me is how shitty pick-ups are at transporting things.
Aug 12, 2023 at 10:09amWeb
Show threadKecessaAug 12, 2023
Show me how you transport a ton of gravel in your car please (and remember, a ton is more than the towing capacity of the vast majority of cars, so no cheating!)
Show threadgamermanhAug 12, 2023

The places around me will deliver it for quite cheap so the uh, 2 times in my life I need that I’ll just do that?

How often does the average person haul tons of earthen materials around?

Show threadKecessaAug 12, 2023

In my case multiple times a year… plus construction material, furniture, motorcycles… In the end I need to haul heavy shit multiple times a month.

Yet, people would take pictures of a SUV and call me an idiot with no respect for driving a big vehicle… With a 4 cylinders that has a fuel consumption that’s the same (or better) as AWD cars that these same people don’t criticize???

Show threadn3m37hAug 12, 2023

With a 4 cylinders that has a fuel consumption that’s the same (or better) as AWD cars that these same people don’t criticize???>

The fuck you talking about?

More weight = more gas needed to move said vehicle… how can this be possible? Unless your making shit up.

Show threadKecessaAug 12, 2023

All highway, 8.2L/100km, mixed, 9.5L/100km.

AWD cars with similar power (so mostly V6) are higher than that, even more so if I include towing capacity in the comparison.

Show threadLUHGAug 12, 2023
What’s the car?
Show threadIlovethebombAug 20, 2023
Most of your fuel use goes towards overcoming aerodynamic drag, especially at highway speed.
Show threadn3m37hAug 21, 2023
Yeah and a larger vehicle will create more drag… So what’s your point?
Show threadIlovethebombAug 22, 2023
You were talking about weight.
Show threadn3m37hAug 24, 2023
A heavier vehicle requires more to be moved. Did ya fail physics?
Show threadIlovethebombAug 26, 2023
Once again, most of your fuel, especially at speed, goes towards overcoming aerodynamic drag. A heavy vehicle with good health aerodynamics will get better efficiency than a light one with poor aerodynamics.
Show threadn3m37hAug 26, 2023

And is an Escalade more areodynamic that a Lancer? Or a Ford F-150? And for most people who drive trucks are they always doing highway speeds or in stop and go bullshit?

As I pointed out before there will only be a very small % of large vehicles that will be more aerodynamic than a 6 cylinder car. So again your argument is kinda pointless

Show threadApolloAug 13, 2023
I think its fair if people call you an idiot for buying an SUV to haul shit - there are far better vehicles for the job.
Show threadKecessaAug 13, 2023
Yes, better drive a truck instead of taking my trainer with me just when it’s necessary, so I take more space and have worse fuel economy 👍
Show threadApolloAug 13, 2023
I mean with reasoning skills like that I’m not sure you should be qualified to drive either of those things lol
Show threadKecessaAug 13, 2023
I was ridiculing your logic but whatever 🤷
Show threadApolloAug 13, 2023
“Haha i was only pretending to be retarded”
Show threadKecessaAug 13, 2023
What? Are you so obtuse that you couldn’t detect the sarcasm when I said it would be a better idea to listen to you and to drive a truck so I would take more space and burn more gas? Are you fucking serious now?
Show threadIlovethebombAug 20, 2023
Yes, they really are that dumb.
Show threadkbotcAug 12, 2023
And what do they use to deliver it?
Show threadlegion02Aug 12, 2023
Never a pickup truck, that’s for sure. Usually a tilt bed truck in my experience. Not something you’d generally want to drive unless you’re moving gravel.
Show threadgamermanhAug 12, 2023

Professional delivery truck with a lifting bed to slide the earth off the back easily wherever you ask them to

A specialized vehicle, not a crappy pickup truck

Show threadbeanutputterAug 12, 2023
Two words: commercial van. Seriously, they’re great.
Show threadn3m37hAug 12, 2023
By picking up a phone and calling a company. Checkmate
Show threadbrygphilomenaAug 12, 2023

I have a small trailer. Towing capacity of my 2003 Subaru WRX is 1500 lbs. So I guess two trips? Truth be told, that’s why I have the trailer. For when I need to move a decent volume of random crap for work.

I don’t think the people here are complaining about pickups when used for work, but they are shit vehicles for daily driving. And, this is my personal opinion, crew cabs are usually not utilized to transport workers. More than not, I expect they are because they think they’ll take the family or kids in it. Even then they usually drive without any passengers.

I get that a lot of workers don’t want to have two vehicles, but pickups are not good daily drivers.

Show threadShieldtoadAug 12, 2023
A percussionist I know has a double cab van, I think it’s a Ford transit. It can haul 3 timpani, a drum, tubular bells, a bass drum and other smaller stuff all in one trip. And then it still has space for 5 people. Try doing that with a pick-up.
Show threadKlavKalashjAug 12, 2023
As a bass player, a VW Touran can fit two double basses and two people. Can’t do that in a pick-up.
Show threadIlovethebombAug 15, 2023

Those are roughly the same size as a 150 though, aren’t they?

Why is a behemoth of a van OK, but an equal sized pickup isn’t?

Show threadFranziaAug 18, 2023
Because pick-ups are truly unfit for purpose unless the purpose is to increase your confidence and sense of safety on the road. We are always gonna need utility vehicles for specific purposes. A percussionist is not hauling drums on the train.
Show threadIlovethebombAug 20, 2023
You could easily do what you said with a pickup with a canopy though, while still having the towing and off road capabilities.
Show threadUnfortunateDoorHingeAug 12, 2023

Can you forklift a pallet from the side? Nope the tub design doesn’t allow it unless you have a tray design.

Can you load a large ladder on it? No ladder/timber rack.

Is it good off-road? Perhaps, but the tub design over the rear tyres and back bumper make the departure angle poor, you’ll need rock sliders or a lift.

I think I’ll stick to wagons and vans.

Show threadIlovethebombAug 20, 2023
You can put a roof rack on almost any vehicle, just BTW.