Snowman44Aug 12, 2023

Is there a more politically conservative part of the fediverse?

https://lemmy.world/post/3067128

Is there a more politically conservative part of the fediverse? - Lemmy.world

I’m a conservative. I don’t mind the liberal stuff here. It’s good to learn the other side, but I don’t want a liberal echo chamber. I’d like to be more politically balanced in the fediverse. Is there any way I can do that?

Show threadfilthyhookerspit
Not likely that there will be a conservative instance. Lemmys core principles are "left leaning" so that already lowers tolerance for the audience "the right" attracts. Every conservative instance eventually gets deleted and defederated because toxicity is baked into the idea. America's "left" is already right wing to the rest of the modern world, so going further than that is just... not great. You can hope for the "ENLIGHTENED_CENTRISTS" to try to keep a somewhat moderated instance but I wouldn't hold my breath.
Aug 12, 2023 at 7:22amWeb
Show thread1rreAug 12, 2023
I don’t think that lemmy’s principles are left leaning at all… Sure they’re anti-authoritarian but being anti-authoritarian doesn’t mean you’re a leftist - George Orwell characterises this really well
Show threadfrankPodmoreAug 12, 2023
But George Orwell was a leftist.
Show thread1rreAug 12, 2023

Oh damn I misremembered, my bad

Somehow I got mixed up by the fact that animal farm was anti-authoritarian, not anti-left

Show threadrichieadlerAug 12, 2023
Orwell criticized leftists as well. 1984 was a critic of Stalinism.
Show threadirmozAug 12, 2023
Right wingers are inherently authoritarian. Leftists have the capability for it of course, but you’re not gonna find a single view that coherently critiques power while also having hierarchy.
Show thread1rreAug 12, 2023
Society is inherently authoritarian leaning. If you put people in an environment where they aren’t on first name terms with everyone they interact with you’re going to end up with an authority not caring about people they don’t know personally. If you wanna go back to living in a single village with minimal outside contact except with traders you are familiar with anyway then go for it, but I can’t see many people actually wanting that. To find the minimal levels of authoritarianism that work with a society where there is a centralised power you’d probably have to look at the centre-left, with it getting more authoritarian the more right or left you go from there
Show threadirmozAug 12, 2023
Or you could just not have any people in power. Y’know, like the far left, anarchism and communism, which you claim are authoritarian.
Show thread1rreAug 12, 2023
I don’t claim that anarchism is authoritarian, just that it’s incompatible with a globalised or even national level society. Communism is a different thing as you can have authoritarian (heavily or slightly) communism in a globalised or national society but it isn’t inherently authoritarian - you can also have non authoritarian communism as a structure that doesn’t work in a globalised or national society
Show threadirmozAug 12, 2023

when it isn’t it’s incompatible with a globalised or even national level society.

[citation needed]

If anything, global statelessness is the best and most likely path to it succeeding. Also:

you can have authoritarian (heavily or slightly) communism

If there is any state whatsoever, it isn’t communism

Show threadsrcAug 13, 2023
Check the “All” page on the big Lemmy instances, it’s undoubtedly very left-leaning. This whole thread is a testament to that.