Illinois Supreme Court finds assault weapons ban constitutional

https://lemmy.world/post/3049053

Illinois Supreme Court finds assault weapons ban constitutional - Lemmy.world

The Illinois State Supreme Court found a strict assault weapons ban passed after the Highland Park shooting to be constitutional in a ruling issued Friday.

Sucks… everyone should be permitted to be armed. Why would you want to walk around not protecting yourself ? It’s a dog eat dog world, like it or not…

@djflusso @MicroWave

Coming from a nation with exactly zero right-to-carry I disagree.

I have visited the US before but honestly won't again. I'm just not comfortable walking around with people who have become immune to the violence they perpetuate by carrying guns just about everywhere.

It makes no sense to me to live in that kind of constant fear. Like seriously, I don't know how all you aren't dead because your amygdala and hypothalamus are exploding from the stress.

It's just a different mindset. People carrying don't have to be fearful or stressed out like you assume. They just want to have the ability to defend themselves or loved ones. Police simply cannot protect everyone all the time and violence is a thing that can happen sometimes. Violence certainly doesn't happen all the time but many people prefer to carry and not need it then need it and not have it.

The people who are actually a danger are still going to be dangerous regardless of how unarmed others choose to be.

Maybe you feel like you can depend on your police or your local criminals are less violent.

@borkcorkedforks @MicroWave

Cops are as bad here as they are in America, as are criminals and crime -- with the notable exception of gun-related crime and deaths.

The only difference between your nation and mine, in this context, is open-carry is NOT allowed.

Criminals don't care about carry laws as breaking laws is kinda their whole deal.

Normal people carrying isn't a problem unless you assume normal people get murderous the second they have the opportunity.

You do realize that open carry doesn’t mean you can just walk around with a gun in your hand, right? The gun has to be on a sling or in a holster. Holding it in your hand in any way that looks like you immediately intend to use it is brandishing and results in a charge.
You haven’t said your country but I’m willing to wager that there’s more difference between your country and ours than you’re led to believe.

@FireTower

Unfortunately there isn't because we share a very long undefended border with you.

It’s not fear, lmao, it’s prevention. Do you wear a seatbelt because you fear dying in a car crash every day you enter it? Or is it preventing the possibility of that hypothetical serious injury?

No licensed CCW owner here is walking around armed like a schizo looking over their shoulder and afraid of every person they meet ready to fire. They simply understand there are humans in this world that would take advantage of you if they could, and if that situation occurs, why handicap yourself.

Government data itself from the DOJ shows you’re less likely to be a victim of injury in crime by having a gun compared to simply not doing anything, hell having a personal knife could be more likely to get you killed. The point made is it’s not the government’s right to decide for us if we want to arm ourselves. The individual is enough to make that decision.

@Torvum

Prevention is acting out of fear.

That’s contradictory. Prevention is preparedness. As in pre-emptive. As in it’s not an action to be ready for something before it happens, as the action only comes when needed. I keep a first aid kit not for fear, but use. Do I fear coming along to someone with a deep wound that needs suturing because I own it? Obviously not. You must have never heard the phrase, better to have it and not need it than be without.

When a risk is so small, there’s no reason to be prepared. That’s fear acting.

If you truly believe situations needing a gun are as common as needing a first aid kid or being in a car crash, then I would quickly move somewhere else.

Besides that, being prepared is not always the solution.

When hiking, you can stuff your backpack for every little risk you might take, but your hike won’t last long, as you’ll quickly realise you won’t get far with the weight you’ve carried. You’ve even increased the risk of injury.

This is what gun carriers are to me. By unnecessarily preparing, they actually increase the risk of falling victim to what they prepared for.

You might not carry out of fear, but you’ll learn to fear soon, because you’re contributing yourself to the problem.

No licensed CCW owner here is walking around armed like a schizo looking over their shoulder and afraid of every person they meet ready to fire.

That sounds exactly like a lot of Republicans, so are you sure about that?

I mean, do I have to start listing people getting shot because they pulled into the wrong driveway or delivered a package while being black?

That sounds exactly like a lot of Republicans, so are you sure about that?

“Believe me guys, I know most Republicans! Swear!”

Did I say most? I’m pretty sure the thing you quoted didn’t use the word most. Again- I can start listing people being shot for pulling into the wrong driveway or existing as a black person if you like…
No need. I think it’s clear we’re not going to change eachothers minds. I will ask though about people who shoot recreationally. Do they not deserve to own your standard run of the mill ar15?

No. “I enjoy this” does not equal “I deserve this.”

I can also list all kinds of things some people enjoy which they don’t deserve. Like sex with women who don’t consent. I could go on…

Good, never come back. Your ignorant fear has no place here