HeavenlyPossumAug 10, 2023

I was thinking to myself, “when will the effects of climate change get so bad that they provoke revolution” but then it occurred to me: they already did. Just in the wrong direction.

Syrians fled a civil war driven by the worst drought in a thousand years and Europe responded with a wave of reactionary fascism.

Central Americans fled rising temperatures that are killing agricultural workers and the U.S. responded with a wave of reactionary fascism.

Russia just happens to be in a war for control of some of the world’s best farmland.

Sudan is in the middle of a civil war and Niger just had its umpteenth coup.

Reactionaries are *already* at war with us over climate change. It’s only going to get worse as the world gets hotter.

Show threadRob Landley
@HeavenlyPossum David Graeber predicted that about 10 years ago. It would take some digging to pull up the specifics but here's a random example of the kind of thing he talked about: https://www.disenz.net/en/david-graeber-on-harmful-jobs-odious-debt-and-fascists-who-believe-in-global-warming/
David Graeber on harmful jobs, odious debt, and fascists who believe in global warming - Disenz

It was a warm spring evening in London and David Graeber, an anthropology professor at the LSE, was sitting on a rooftop. Our conversation was...

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Show threadHeavenlyPossumAug 11, 2023

@landley

Absolutely. In retrospect, I think the long duree of climate-driven political rot and collapse have obviously started long ago.

Show threadRob LandleyAug 11, 2023
@HeavenlyPossum Everybody around here is waiting for the Boomers to die. It's learned helplessness, but with a distinct expiration date.