pizza-bagel

Got asked current salary, when I'm in CA and that is no longer legal. How can I report?

Exactly what the title says. I was asked my current base salary, not what I'm looking for. And when I refused they tried to pressure me into answering. I don't want them doing this to other people who don't know it's illegal.

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Got asked current salary, when I'm in CA and that is no longer legal. How can I report? - antiwork - kbin.social

Exactly what the title says. I was asked my current base salary, not what I'm looking for. And when I refused they tried to pressure me into answering. I don't want them doing this to other people who don't know it's illegal.

Aug 11, 2023 at 8:29pmWeb
Show threadTransient PunkAug 11, 2023
I don’t honestly know, but this may be a place to start: www.dir.ca.gov/…/howtoreportviolationtobofe.htm
Report a Labor Law Violation

Show threadPorkRollWobblyAug 11, 2023
I believe you can contact your states or local labor board office and report it.
Show threadHippopotamusAug 11, 2023
You can always answer “I’m looking for $ x amount for my next role. “ if they push just repeat that.
Show threadpoopAug 11, 2023
You can also just lie about your current salary.
Show threadTrainguyromAug 11, 2023
The best advise I’ve heard for handling illegal questions is to first say “I’d prefer not to answer that question, I’m perfectly capable of performing the duties expected of this role” or in this case of course end with “my preferred salary range is $x” then if they keep pushing to say “I don’t believe that is a question you can legally ask me” its tactful, avoids answering an illegal question and doesn’t come across as know-it-ally while still informing the probably undertrained interviewer
Show threadxantoxisAug 11, 2023
“Oh, I’m not a sapiosexual myself, but I am a know-it-ally.”
Show threadbestnerdAug 11, 2023
Context? If it’s a recruiter they are just trying to get info, pretty common question to ask so they can range pay or even see if you’re in their range. Don’t get too hot and so offended off the bat, they’re doing they’re job trying to fill a role.
Show threadNarrrzAug 11, 2023
I'm assuming this was at a job interview.
Show threadbestnerdAug 11, 2023
Sure but to go right to reporting without context besides “I was asked my salary”. Has this person never been in a job interview or recruited? Just lie about what you make
Show threadpizza-bagelAug 11, 2023

I have 10 years of experience and I am constantly interviewing in case something better comes along. Somehow other recruiters manage to not break the law just fine.

I am a woman in tech and women can get fucked over by not negotiating or being underpaid for one job, and then that follows them for the rest of their career. Which exactly why this law was passed and should be enforced.

Show threadDrusasAug 11, 2023
You're missing the point. It is illegal to ask that in California. It was made illegal because it's so common and problematic for the interviewee.
Show threadLmaydevAug 11, 2023
It’s illegal dude. It’s not a hard concept hehe
Show threadLexamAug 11, 2023
If it is illegal then it is not part of any legally held job in California. Since doing illegal things is illegal. I am not a lawyer.
Show threadpizza-bagelAug 11, 2023
If you read the California bill, a third party recruiter is also not able to ask this. Just ask the salary range you are looking for and stop doing illegal shit
Show threadhypelightflyAug 11, 2023
Context was provided. They live in California where it's illegal to ask this question. Yes, even for recruiters.
Show threadsocsaAug 11, 2023
Just lie about it like everyone else
Show threadSupraMarioAug 12, 2023
Yeah who the fuck tells the truth with that shit. Literally lie about it or tell them current market rate is what you make.
Show threadmosiacmangoAug 12, 2023
Go freeze your “work number” as well. Equifax will sell any records of your pay to companies for $60/pop.
Show threadFeatherConstrictorAug 12, 2023
What do you mean by freezing your work number?
Show threadBROMETHIUSAug 12, 2023
Also curious about this
Show threadmosiacmangoAug 12, 2023

Equifax, one of the credit bureaus, will sell you income data to any company that pays. They call that service "the work number.’ This means that in a salary negotiation where you want 100k, and they want to pay 60k, they can see your current salary is 40k. If they have that info, they are going to low ball you. If they dont have that info, they might pay the 100k, or 80k, etc. They sure arent going to tell you how much they are willing to pay, so why give them anyway to get that information about how much you will take?

Equifax are evil fucks, so of course you cant opt out entirely, but you you can go to equifax and demand they freeze this info so that no company can buy it. Its a pain, but here is a method:

news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27705428

Digital Verification Solutions - Income & Employment | The Work Number

The Work Number database provides comprehensive verification services for commercial and government verifiers, employers and employees.

Show threadglad_catAug 12, 2023
It worked great for my last job. I was earning 45 k€ a year (before taxes, it’s weird), and when they asked I told them I earned 65 k€ but wouldn’t mind a lower salary since the job was good. We settled on 62 k€. It was the biggest raise I got so far.
Show threadhypelightflyAug 11, 2023

https://www.dir.ca.gov/dlse/california_equal_pay_act.htm

This FAQ for the law in question has a link for complaints. It's an equal pay act violation.

  • Where and when can a person file a claim if they were aggrieved by a violation of Labor Code Section 432.3?
    The person may file a complaint with the Labor Commissioner’s Office, the state agency charged with enforcement. A written complaint must be filed within one year after the date the person learned of the violation.
    • California Equal Pay Act

    Show threadAesthesiaphiliaAug 11, 2023
    Problem is that the labor commissioner's office is so backed up, it's a coin toss whether they'll ever actually get to your case