MicroWaveAug 11, 2023

With eyes on Taiwan, new China ban shows the U.S. may be learning lessons from mistakes with Russia

https://lemmy.world/post/3023594

With eyes on Taiwan, new China ban shows the U.S. may be learning lessons from mistakes with Russia - Lemmy.world

U.S. moves to de-risk from China with a new investment ban suggest that Western allies may be learning from national security failings in Russia, according to analysts.

Show threadLastSprinklesAug 11, 2023
If we’re really learning from mistakes in Ukraine then Taiwan should be recognised as an independent country and admitted into a formal alliance. Not admitting Ukraine into NATO was the mistake we made there and it’s being repeated in Taiwan.
Show threadMagicShelAug 11, 2023

Hey, I 100% support Ukraine and financial aid for them, but I feel like this conflict runs the risk of distorting history. Ukraine has a very corrupt recent past and admitting them before they clean up their own house might well have just been a different kind of mistake. Hopefully we can be formal allies some day.

I don’t have an agenda here other than being kind to people who made decisions without the benefit of the hindsight we use to second guess them.

Show threadLastSprinklesAug 11, 2023
Sure I agree when it comes to admitting them to the EU. NATO is only a military defence alliance though. If they’d been in NATO this war would never have happened.
Show threadChrisLicht
I’m wearing a St. Javelin tshirt as I write this, but NATO can’t have member countries with the levels of endemic corruption that have existed in Ukraine and are still being rooted out. Shit, Resnikov himself was seen to be only one step away from it in the past year.
Aug 11, 2023 at 1:37pmWeb
Show threadgahedrosAug 11, 2023
What about Turkey?
Show threadChrisLichtAug 11, 2023
It’s a great question. FWIW, I am not sure that Türkiye would be admitted today.