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HeavenlyPossum Aug 10, 2023

I was thinking to myself, “when will the effects of climate change get so bad that they provoke revolution” but then it occurred to me: they already did. Just in the wrong direction.

Syrians fled a civil war driven by the worst drought in a thousand years and Europe responded with a wave of reactionary fascism.

Central Americans fled rising temperatures that are killing agricultural workers and the U.S. responded with a wave of reactionary fascism.

Russia just happens to be in a war for control of some of the world’s best farmland.

Sudan is in the middle of a civil war and Niger just had its umpteenth coup.

Reactionaries are *already* at war with us over climate change. It’s only going to get worse as the world gets hotter.

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StarkRG Aug 11, 2023

@HeavenlyPossum I'm about 85% sure we're doomed as a species. We're not at the point of no return, that probably won't happen for another few decades, but we're definitely beyond the point that not making it worse anymore isn't enough, the positive feedback loops have already taken hold. Were we an intelligent species, we would shift a significant portion of our efforts into undoing the damage. We're not doomed because we're incapable of fixing it, we're doomed because we just don't care.

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StarkRG

@HeavenlyPossum I'm using "we" here to mean or entire civilization, not individuals. Individual action isn't going to make a difference, it has to be everyone. Even the action of entire nations wouldn't make enough of a difference, it has to be *everyone*. Sadly, given the events of the last 40 years, I have no faith whatsoever that every nation on Earth can work together to save ourselves. We're just too selfish to survive.