NightOwlBiden asks Congress for $40 billion to support Ukraine, replenish US disaster aid and bolster border
queermunist she/herFire’s gettin low, better throw some more paper on it to keep it going.
SatansMaggotyCumFartWould you prefer that the world turn its back on Ukraine and let Russia continue to invade them without support?
I’d prefer peace negotiations.
How do you see those going?
Krause [he/him]Probably not great after Zelensky made negotiations illegal
Oh yeah cuz Putin has just seemed so open to peace, dipshit… it’s not like it hasn’t been tried about countless times. He doesn’t want peace, he just wants everything handed to him with zero consequence
russia is the only one preventing those
id prefer HIMARS instantly raining down on every last invader without a white flag in the sky. fuck em and the cookers supporting the genocide
Okay you bloodthirsty maniac, and what happens when they retaliate with nuclear weapons?
ZoboomafooWhat nuclear weapons? The fuel got sold for vodka money and the tritium has decayed away to uselessness with Russia not refining any more
If that were true, do you think America and its allies could resist total war? They’d just bomb the whole country to ashes.
“By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”
Ok, and what do you think they would look like exactly? Unless Russia are willing to leave Ukraine, there’s little to talk about.
Yeah, he would. There are lots of people who would rather bend over for Russia than think for one second. Putin has zero love for America and actively attacks our infrastructure and companies by sponsoring hackers. If you support Russia you are a traitor or an idiot.
or, like, not american? lol
Would you prefer that the world turn its back on Ukraine
Yes.
Why are trash tankies like you even around?
BloopsSays the true tankie. How many tankies do you want to send to Ukraine?
Not what “tankie” means, but as many as they ask for
You claim you are not a tankie, yet you want to roll in the tanks!
Yeah, but you’re a mad Tankie so we just ignore that. You lot have been barking up the same trees since the 50s.
It’s the alt-right isolation types I worry about as they actually have more chance of getting into power than commies these days.
I personally dont give a fuck about Ukraine so yes. I give as much of a fuck for Ukraine as much as I give a fuck about whats going on in Kenya or Sri Lanka.
I. Dont. Care.
Those hundreds of billions of dollars are given to the banks to perpetuate this stupid war
Where did you glean this
Straight out of their asshole.
I dont need to post any proof. You guys dont ever read any sources anyways so whats the point.
“Bro, just believe me, I definitely didn’t just make all of this shit up.”.
-you
How about this. Lets meet in the middle. You come up with a source that is in contrary and ill come up with a source thats in favor and we can have a discussion. Otherwise, you just want a source that you can easily disqualify.
That’s not how that works. You made a claim that you can’t backup. Meeting in the middle would be if you provided a source and we could discuss the validity. If your alleged source is so weak that it can be “easily disqualified” then you don’t really have a source then, do you? So maybe you didn’t pull it out if your own ass, but instead you saw someone else pull it out if their ass and you regurgitating their shit.
What if I concede to not having made any research prior to my claims… much like you not making any research before trying to disprove. We would be even steven and we can start from the bottom. Otherwise, you are losing a golden opportunity to educate me correctly.
No concession. You made shit up. The onus is on you to provide proof, not me to disprove. The only education for you is to not just spread bullshit next time. If you make a claim, support it with evidence.
I dont see that you have evidence for the contrary though. Why would i need evidence on a claim that is so well understood? I need you to prove me wrong.
This is what you are doing.
Either you’re arguing in bad faith or you’re too dense to understand how this works. You make a claim and can’t support it. That means your claim has no merit. It means nothing without supporting evidence. Nobody has to disprove it because it carries no value. You say it’s well understood, but can’t back it up. That’s it. Baseless claims are equivalent to falacy that don’t need disproven.
Buddy im past that. Im asking you now to help me understand. If you cant help me underatand then you can say that. Ill concede and say i made a baseless claim. It is a claim I have heard but i dont remember where i saw. But i want help understanding how it works. The only information i see look like this.
www.ifw-kiel.de/…/ukraine-support-tracker/
This doesnt specify how it was spent. I am assuming loans are taken out from banks and they need funds to pay back the interest on the loans. I dont see information on that specifically though.
[citation needed]
Could you provide some sources on those claims?
cues up QAnon.com lol
*Qs up
I need to be QAnon to not care for Ukraine, Palestine, Ethiopia, Myanmar etc. Ok thanks for the reminder.
How is giving dust-collecting weapons and tanks giving money to the banks exactly?
You realize that the monetary amount above isn't actual money, right? It's the worth of the goods being given that we weren't using anyways.
Yeah sounds about right… glad we don’t have spineless losers like you in charge
Ok, so you’re a bad person, that’s all