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House GOP will subpoena Biden family, says Republican chairman

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House GOP will subpoena Biden family, says Republican chairman - Lemmy.world

House Oversight and Accountability Committee Chairman James Comer (R-Ky.) said that his committee, which has been investigating the foreign business dealings of President Biden’s family members, will eventually move to subpoena the Biden family — a move Comer hinted could include the president himself. “This is always going to end with the Bidens coming in front of the committee. We are going to subpoena the family,” Comer said Thursday on Fox Business. “We know that this is going to end up in court when we subpoena the Bidens. So we’re putting together a case, and I think we’ve done that very well. We’ve shown the bank records,” Comer said. “If I had subpoenaed Joe and Hunter Biden the first day I became chairman of the committee, it would have been tied up in court and the judge would have eventually thrown it out. … We have put together a case that I think would stand up in any court of law in America.” Comer’s subpoena tease comes a day after his committee released a third staff memo outlining millions of dollars in foreign funds paid to Hunter Biden and his former associates while Joe Biden was vice president. That memo noted that the committee has so far only subpoenaed banks tailored to specific individuals and companies, but has not yet issued subpoenas for bank records for members of the Biden family. Comer, though, indicated that subpoenas for members of the Biden family would not be imminent.

Aug 10, 2023 at 10:15pmWeb
Show threadprotistAug 10, 2023
I have no doubt they will wait to try to do this during the presidential election next year. He knows they have nothing except trying to make Biden look bad through innuendo and association, and that any hearings they hold will end with a whimper. Can’t have it ending with a whimper before the election, so have to wait.
Show threadNougatAug 10, 2023
You know what people who operate legitimate investigations don't do? They don't announce on Fox Business that they're going to subpoena the president's family, and possibly the president himself.
Show threadjscummyAug 11, 2023
Comer is running a very legitimate media circus, I mean investigation
Show threadRojoSanIchibanAug 10, 2023

I really can’t wait until history forgets even the existence of this dipshit yokel.

“Jesus Christ, Kentucky,” exclaimed the Floridian unironically.

Show threadBurn_The_RightAug 10, 2023
Nothing good in the history of mankind has ever come from conservatism. Nothing at all. The more valuable time they waste in congress, the more civilized society should shun and exclude them from our daily lives.
Show threadCoralMask146Aug 10, 2023

I hope the Bidens just ignore it. Take a page out what Trump and his team did last year and ignore it

When Democrats subpoenaed Don McGhan to testify and tried to take him to court for his refusal, the Appeals Court ruled that Congress never passed a law that allowed them to sue to enforce a subpoena, and thus, can’t sue for that

Show threadLEDZeppelinAug 10, 2023
As soon as House Oversight Committee figures out what they want to investigate the Biden family for
Show threadAbidanYreAug 11, 2023
The reason’s pretty obvious. Is right there in their name. Bi(D)en.
Show threadJordan LundAug 11, 2023
Always about the D…
Show threadproleAug 11, 2023
And with Hunter, I’ve heard it’s massive.
Show threaddhorkAug 10, 2023
They should stop teasing and subpoena Hunter Biden’s penis already. You know they want to.
Show threadTropicalDingdongAug 10, 2023

They should stop teasing and subpoena Hunter Biden’s penis already. You know they want to.

What would be hilarious is if the dude is packing a hog or something. And thats the extent of what we find out.

Show threadMic_Check_One_TwoAug 10, 2023
I mean, apparently his sex tape is available somewhere. So you’re welcome to go find out for yourself.
Show threaddhorkAug 11, 2023
Don’t tell MTG, she might screen the tape on C-SPAN. She seems oddly enamored with Hunter…
Show threadproleAug 11, 2023
I’m pretty sure MTG showed a pic of it on the floor of the House, and I’m pretty sure even before that it’s been known that he’s hanging dong.
Show threadTropicalDingdongAug 11, 2023
MTG demanding to see his cock while he’s testifying on the house floor seems like a great start to some rule 34 shit.
Show threadNightwingdragonAug 11, 2023

What would be hilarious is if the dude is packing a hog or something.

I don’t know if it’s just a meme or not because I have no interest in finding out, but word going around is that he’s packing some pretty serious meat.

Show threadmateomauiAug 10, 2023
And every one of them should all opt for doing a Gym Jordan on the matter.
Show threadOldWoodFrameAug 10, 2023

Are there actually rules around who Congress can subpoena? I don’t think you NEED to put together a good case, I think you just vote to do it.

Which is lucky for this guy because spoilers… they don’t have a good case.

Show threadstringereAug 11, 2023

spoilers… they don’t have a ~~good ~~ case.

Show threadTheJimsAug 10, 2023
This is performance art for an audience of one.
Show threadIntroversionAug 11, 2023
An audience of tens of millions (of MAGA idiots), too.
Show threadstyle99Aug 11, 2023
They all have one mind.
Show threadares35Aug 11, 2023
that's a bit generous.
Show threaderan_moradAug 11, 2023
lol, trump has 78 federal indictments and will be on trial in two separate federal cases next year.
Show threadjeffwAug 11, 2023
Sorry, I just want to talk about Hunter’s penis
Show threadSmashingSquidAug 11, 2023
The anti gay stuff is obviously just because they feel ashamed for being so thirsty for hunter.
Show threadJordan LundAug 11, 2023

I saw this asshat trying to justify himself to Lawrence O’Donnell and one of his “Well isn’t that SPECIAL…” stats was that just after Biden left Romania, someone in Romania wired money to his grand daughter.

Which sure SOUNDS damning when you put it that way…

Too bad it didn’t actually happen that way…

Here’s the timeline:

Biden spoke in Romania
One year later, Romanian national Gabriel Popoviciu wired money to Rob Walker.

Rob Walker later wired about 1/3rd of the $3 mil. to various Biden family members.

freebeacon.com/…/corrupt-romanian-paid-biden-fami…

So, no evidence Biden was involved in the ask or the payment. LOL.

Corrupt Romanian Paid Biden Family $1 Million as Joe Biden Pushed Anti-Corruption Measures in Romania

A Romanian businessman charged in a bribery scheme funneled more than $1 million to Hunter Biden and other Biden family members as then-vice president Joe Biden preached anti-corruption measures in Romania, according to a House Oversight Committee investigation.

Washington Free Beacon
Show threadproleAug 11, 2023
Lots of stones being thrown by folks in glass houses… I’m not sure the GOP really wants this kind of deep dive into their financials. If you think this is bad, I can’t even imagine the kind of shit they’re hiding.
Show threadDippyAug 11, 2023

If they have legitimate evidence a crime was commit. Good, question him.

Republican or Democrat doesn’t matter, show your evidence and if they are doing something illegal let’s get rid of em. Biden shouldnt be immune, nor should any other person.

Show threadmrpantsAug 11, 2023
they never do though lol
Show threadjeffwAug 11, 2023
Except they don’t lol
Show threadDippyAug 11, 2023

Sure, maybe not, but are you positive? Is Biden infallible for some reason?

If there might be weird ties to money, what’s wrong with investigating and getting their official statements? It could be political BS, but would you really rather just brush it off and dismiss it so quickly?

Show threadjeffwAug 11, 2023
I’m not positive, no. But you’d think if they said “we’re releasing the evidence” so many times now… that one of the releases would have that evidence, right?
Show threadDLSchichtlAug 11, 2023

But you’d think…

Woah there, partner. I think you are getting ahead of yourself.

Show threadDippyAug 11, 2023

Sure, but look at the Jack Smith case against trump, are we getting evidence put out by his team? Not really (there have been leaks), and I’m glad. Build your case, make it solid, then present it.

I also hope anyone using this as a political weapon faces legal repercussions as well if it can be proven.

Show threadjeffwAug 11, 2023

Are you referring to the unsealed indictments?

Maybe the “leak” you’re thinking of is the audio where Trump confesses that he’s showing off classified docs? Y’know, a felony?

Show threadDippyAug 11, 2023

An indictment is not evidence. Oxford: “a formal charge or accusation of a serious crime.” Yes enough evidence was presented to a grand jury to get the indictment, but the indictment itself is not evidence, it’s the accusations.

So similarly, if there is evidence that there is illegal things happening for Biden or anyone in his family, I hope the evidence is presented to a grand jury and if they believe there’s just cause, an indictment should be issued for the individual.

Would you at least agree that if there is something nefarious going on, with any politician, regardless of party affiliation, it should at least be investigated?

Show threadreddwarfAug 11, 2023

I think they should take the lead from Gym Jordan and not show up. Be honest, did you come online and argue with republicans on ‘doing the right thing’? Hoe committed where you then?

And please, do us all a favor and try avoiding ‘be better’ or some nonsense like that.

Show threadDippyAug 11, 2023

I’m very happy trump is seeing his day in court soon, and by all accounts, it appears they have a lot on him to put him away. Good, GREAT!. I want any politician doing something illegal to see their day in court. They should be held to a higher standard than any individual after swearing an oath to the public. In fact for trump, it seems from what’s out there he’s not alone, go after them too, PLEASE!

It’s funny to seeing the polarized response here to if a politician did something wrong, they should be investigated.

Show threadreddwarfAug 11, 2023

The difference here is that this ‘investigation’ was called for by republicans before they even knew what to investigate. And on top of that, even admitting they have no evidence to present (suspicions is not evidence) yet claim to have evidence. Witnesses they claim to have seem to be lost somehow and cannot be produced for investigation.

And based on this obviously flimsy, if not outright lies, you want to be ‘reasonable’?

I distrust your honesty

Show threadDippyAug 11, 2023

Great, and as I said, whatever they have should go in front of a grand jury for indictment if it’s worthwhile. If it’s nothing, should be no indictment. Simple. If they have something plausible, indict him. Again simple.

For now, they have a suspicion. Investigate it. If there is a hint at an issue, let’s get statements for the record.

Let’s take Clarance Thompson for example. There’s some pretty good suspicions there that some sort of payments have taken place. Let’s investigate him for wrong doing. We should also subpoena him (if possible) to get his official statements on things. Not sure why this is hard to agree on.

Show threadreddwarfAug 11, 2023

And I fail to understand you not being able to make a distinction on having a reasonable concern and investigating vs creating a platform of accusations based on a ‘desire’. This so called investigation is used as a tool to hammer someone, just because.

Indeed, take Clarence Thomas as an example. People disagree and abhor his political stance. It was not that what drove the current calls for investigation. It is based on records which became available and an admission he took those ‘gifts’.

Your failure to understand this make me doubt you know what you are talking about. Your suggesting a methodology we know all to well. It’s what was used to accuse ‘witches’, just because someone yelled ‘witch!’

Show threadDippyAug 11, 2023

As I said previously:

“I also hope anyone using this as a political weapon faces legal repercussions as well if it can be proven.”

Show threadreddwarfAug 11, 2023

I can read.

Again, we know this methodology and the way to prove you are not a witch is being thrown in a pool and drown. To bad you are dead but hey, your innocent and surely the prosecutors will get their comeuppance!

Your method relies on people being held to account after you have proven to be innocent on charges brought up with the motivation to destroy you or your reputation. Damage is done already.

I wonder, what rule of law you support. It sure as heck isn’t based on a fair and reasonable case being brought forward. You are promoting a kangaroo court style of law and I am absolutely not on board with that.

Show threadDippyAug 11, 2023

At what point then would you say you are allowed to investigate someone of something?

For the Clarance Thompson thing (funny my phone keeps trying to write clearance, which makes sense what he’s being accused of), someone had to have a suspicion and dig into it, found something, built a case, then put it out there. I assume you agree with that method?

That’s what I feel should happen here. Again as I said, should gather their evidence, build a case, and get an indictment. Without one, everything they say means nothing. I do disagree with putting it out in the public like this, to me that’s already coming close to defamation.

Show threadreddwarfAug 11, 2023

“When you have the facts, pound the facts. When you have no facts, pound the table.”

Facts start a case. This investigation is based on retaliation. They admitted as much and had to grudgingly admit they have none but keep accusing and communicating there are facts. The lie.

We are seeing vindictive children pounding the table.

Show threadproleAug 11, 2023

I’m very happy trump is seeing his day in court soon,

Why lie though?

Show threadDippyAug 11, 2023
Ah no good argument left. You are so blinded you can’t see that people can simultaneously want trump to go to jail if he’s guilty as with any other politician.
Show threadjeffwAug 11, 2023
You can read the evidence in the indictment though? No idea what you’re going on about.
Show threadDippyAug 11, 2023

The indictment only contains the basics of the case and the charges against him. There is said to be over 11 million pages of evidence, the indictment is 45.

Indictment:

www.justice.gov/storage/US_v_Trump_23_cr_257.pdf

11 million source:

reuters.com/…/trump-lawyers-challenge-limits-evid…

Show threadnew_acct_who_disAug 11, 2023
You don’t think it’s weird that they’ve been wasting so much energy on this and nothing has come out?
Show threadTreczoksAug 11, 2023
But it so hard to prosecute someone you don’t like without any evidence…
Show threadbtaf45Aug 11, 2023
How and why would you subpoena a “family” lmfao? Is this going to include Bo Biden, who volunteered for service in Afghanistan and died in the service?
Show threadjeffwAug 11, 2023
Beau died of brain cancer after he was on active duty?
Show threadRagingRobotAug 11, 2023
Wasn’t it from possible exposure to some shit while on duty though?
Show threadjeffwAug 11, 2023
That sounds vaguely familiar. But he didn’t die in active duty afaik
Show threadNataliePortlandAug 11, 2023
He died from exposure to toxic burn pits. Democrats passed a measure extending healthcare to veterans exposed to toxic burn pits and republicans tried yo block it
Show threadproleAug 11, 2023
Another one Jon Stewart tirelessly fought for.
Show threadTreczoksAug 11, 2023
So they want to make a case that would stand up in any court - without any hint of evidence? This is as “solid” as Trumps “stolen election” cases.