New #beekeeping experiment. Attempt to use a #superhydrophobic coating on beehive stands to fend off #ants.
@ai6yr interesting!
@KI5SMN The theory is that it's so slick the little ant legs can't get purchase, and they slip. I guess folks are using it for keeping beetles out of hives, too. If it works, it will be useful.

@ai6yr

Indeed!

I don't keep bees myself, but I have a friend who does, and we live deep in ant country, I'm certain it must be a concern.

I also know he recently requeened and successfully reestablished his hives, so he might need to know this.

He's gonna one way or another, 'cause I'm gonna tell him.

😜

@ai6yr Please report back! We set up a new colony overly close to an anthill this year. Oops. Still looking for good solutions…
@ampersand I'm going to finish the coating, and then put a bit of honey up there (protected from bees) and see if the ants can get up there.

@ai6yr Nit: Its superhydroPHOBIC (repelling water), making it both bead up and slide off.

Hydrophillic attracts water and stops it from beading up by causing it to spread over the surface (e.g. how anti-spot solution in the dishwasher works).

An interest question is "how do ants stick to the surface" and whether a smooth surface (which this provides) prevents grip. An alternative might be a moat or something of sticky material as well.

@ncweaver Sticky works, but the problem is it also accumulates dust, dirt, and sticks (and enough ants) and becomes rapidly useless.
@ai6yr What about a soapy-water moat? Perhaps 3D print something that could be slid under or clip around?
@ncweaver Possible. We use water moats (non soap) successfully, but that only works when you have regular access to the moats. (we have some hives we only check every one or two months). Need to check water trays daily due to stuff falling in.
@ncweaver @ai6yr Ants Climb with Adhesive Pads and Tarsal Friction Hair Arrays https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0141269
On Heels and Toes: How Ants Climb with Adhesive Pads and Tarsal Friction Hair Arrays

Ants are able to climb effortlessly on vertical and inverted smooth surfaces. When climbing, their feet touch the substrate not only with their pretarsal adhesive pads but also with dense arrays of fine hairs on the ventral side of the 3rd and 4th tarsal segments. To understand what role these different attachment structures play during locomotion, we analysed leg kinematics and recorded single-leg ground reaction forces in Weaver ants (Oecophylla smaragdina) climbing vertically on a smooth glass substrate. We found that the ants engaged different attachment structures depending on whether their feet were above or below their Centre of Mass (CoM). Legs above the CoM pulled and engaged the arolia (‘toes’), whereas legs below the CoM pushed with the 3rd and 4th tarsomeres (‘heels’) in surface contact. Legs above the CoM carried a significantly larger proportion of the body weight than legs below the CoM. Force measurements on individual ant tarsi showed that friction increased with normal load as a result of the bending and increasing side contact of the tarsal hairs. On a rough sandpaper substrate, the tarsal hairs generated higher friction forces in the pushing than in the pulling direction, whereas the reverse effect was found on the smooth substrate. When the tarsal hairs were pushed, buckling was observed for forces exceeding the shear forces found in climbing ants. Adhesion forces were small but not negligible, and higher on the smooth substrate. Our results indicate that the dense tarsal hair arrays produce friction forces when pressed against the substrate, and help the ants to push outwards during horizontal and vertical walking.

@ai6yr I Googled "What can't ants walk up?" and mostly Fluon came up. It says it is similar to Teflon. It doesn't sound like Fluon is good for outdoors but has anyone tried wrapping the legs with Teflon plumber's tape?
@HikerGeek 🤔 Ah, that's an interesting idea!