Maui resident: 'We still have dead bodies floating in the water'

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Maui resident: 'We still have dead bodies floating in the water' - Lemmy.world

A Lahaina resident talks about the recovery efforts after a wildfire swept through the Maui town.

Crazy how thin the line is between society as usual and total melt down. Makes you really appreciate yow fragile all of this is. Growing up you think the way things are is how they've always been and always will be.

Time to wake up.

I wouldn’t talk about a meltdown of dociety here - this is a natural disaster, not the sacking of Rome. In due time help will arrive, people will bury the dead and rebuild. Though I agree it makes you appreciate how we take things for granted until one day they aren’t.
Climate change caused this so I don’t know that you can really call it natural. Unless you include things people do as natural (I tend to but that’s not how most people use the word.)

I mean, humans are perfectly natural beings. Everything we do to cause climate change comes from natural sources.

Technically it’s natural. It’s just more accurate to say man-made.

That’s just semantics. If you go by that logic literally nothing in the universe isn’t natural meaning the word natural would have no meaning.
Right, and only would something be considered “artificial” if it was outside of our universe.

Yeah, I agree.

Honestly I think the word natural doesn’t mean anything. Is an anthill unnatural? If not, neither is a city or a computer.

I always thought it was a little arrogant of us humans to assume if we created something, or cause something to happen, that it isn’t considered part of the natural world. Like, of course it is. As you said, anthills are natural, beaver dams are natural, so skyscrapers are just as natural as a bird’s nest.
Yeah, we like to pretend we’re separate from nature. Then we get surprised when our actions destroy our environment.
Yeah but climate change causes natural disasters.