grteShoppers upset over lack of cashiers as self-checkout use soars | CBC News
Most stores near me don’t let you use the self checkout with more than a basket, but then they will not have anyone at any of the normal checkouts while having 3-4 employees just chilling “watching” the self checkouts.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
CBC News interviewed several people who said during recent visits to major retailers, they were frustrated to find cashiers weren’t available — only self-checkout.
Valcov says he stopped shopping at his local Canadian Tire in June, following several store visits where only the self-checkouts were open and no staff members were available to help him.
VideoMining, a U.S. market research company, analyzed shoppers’ checkout habits during 1.2 billion trips to more than 1,000 U.S. grocery stores in 2022.
Sharma says retailers like self-checkout because it reduces labour costs, and that customers are increasingly drawn to the machines to avoid long lines at the cash register.
Retailer Loblaw, which owns pharmacy chain Shoppers Drug Mart, says its policy is to offer customers both self-checkout and cashier options at all times.
In an email to CBC News, Loblaw offered Rayman and Winterburn an apology, and said that it has contacted their local stores to resolve the problem.
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I like self-checkout especially when there’s lot of people and you have 1 or 2 items, it’s convenient, for me. But as written in the article, someone in need like this woman, needs a cashier lane. I’m not against self, but all stores should have at least one lane with cashier, always, for people in need.
Yes I agree I think having a mix of the two is best. Let the customers decide what they would like to use.
I actually prefer self checkouts. It’s a simple task and going grocery shopping is one of my moments of solitude in the week, I don’t wanna talk to anyone that I don’t have to.
Yeah but you’re probably able bodied. Self checkouts are a big burden for the elderly or disabled.
I am not suggesting that we remove normal checkouts. I am just saying I like the option of having self checkout everywhere.
You know you don't have to have a conversation with the cashier right? I put my stuff on the conveyor, say 'yup' when asked if I find everything alright, and 'thanks' when they're finished.. Or just silently nod 🤷♂️
But literally two days ago I was at the store and the self checkouts were full with 7 people still waiting to use them, while one employee ran around trying to handle all the errors.. and only one standard checkout open for people with full carts. It was soo damn frustrating.
That hasn’t been my experience at least. And yes, I don’t need to have a conversation with a cashier, but I also don’t wanna watch someone do something so basic that I can easily do myself. And from my experience, lines have gotten much shorter everywhere self checkout has been implemented.
Additionally I am not suggesting get rid of all cashiers, I just don’t want them to get rid of self checkout either. Give people the option so they can use what they prefer.
idunnololzI live by a food basic. Before they implemented self checkout there used to be a pretty long line at peak hours and weekends. After they added self checkout, there is pretty much never a line anymore. The most people I’ve had to wait behind was like 3. The difference was extremely noticeable.
There are probably some really terrible implementations of self checkout in some stores or locations but when it’s done right it seems pretty good.
I agree completely, lines have gotten much shorter everywhere I’ve seen with self checkout.
CoderKatHeck, this has even been my experience at Walmart. Even the express aisle took an eternity compared to self checkout. I love self checkouts and think they’re great. The complaints about hAvINg To ScAn mY OwN GrOCeriEs are ridiculous. I just want to buy my stuff and get home ASAP. Not like scanning groceries is difficult or anything.
Just wish the self checkouts weren’t so shitty about mis-scans. If you accidentally scan something twice, you usually need to call an employee over. You should be able to do that yourself. If they’re worried about theft, just make the button get flagged for loss protection to scrutinize or something.
If I have just a handful of items it’s convenient. But one in 20 times I seem to find a way to screw it up - like trying to scan the loyalty card as an item…
Any more than 8 items I’d rather just use a cashier to scan the items for me. But places (like shoppers) don’t make it easy at all.
Do I get a discount for checking myself out? Unless it’s 1-2 items and the normal line is full - it is cashier every time for me.
Same. I will go to the cashier even when it’s somewhat inconvenient to me just because I despise the idea that the grocery store is making me be the cashier for free.
PoggervaniaThat’s why if something “fails” to scan or you input some produce at a cheaper price “on accident”, then it’s the store’s fault - you’re not a cashier, just a customer doing self-checkout.
I mean, they’re also “making you” pick up your items off the shelf, just like the gas station “makes you” pump your own gas.
Succinctly: they’re making it more annoying for me as a customer while simultaneously not providing someone with a job.
What value does a real human provide you though?
nbaileyThey’re a skilled worker that has memorized the codes for the different types of potatoes, a skill I am unlikely to learn.
I guess it depends on the machine, but I don’t have to memorize codes. You can search for the item by name when it’s time to weigh it.
Why do you want to do that when someone else is getting paid to do it?
If I can get home faster, it might be wort it. Not always, but sometimes. Specially if I’m picking up a small set of items that are easy to scan.
I don’t have to do the thing myself. They’re doing it for me. Unless I’m misunderstanding your question.
Just steal, that’s the discount.
Honestly, it’s immoral but yeah. I tried scanning something out of my pile of 15 items at Dollarama. It didn’t register after I slapped it against the scanner 5 times so I was like whatever. I was too tired to bother so I just put it in the other side. I wasn’t trained on how to use it properly.
I don’t mind there being a self-checkout, but for the love of everything good in this world, these companies need to stop asking 21 questions when you use one! “Do you want to apply to a credit card?”, “Do you want to donate?”, “Did you want a receipt emailed?”, “Did you want to fill out a survey?”, “How many bags did you use?”, etc.
And if it’s a self-checkout at Walmart, expect to have 10 available, but only 2 working and three staff overlooking them…
Ironically, the local Walmart has been closing them all later in the day so that people must use cashier’s, presumably due to increased theft etc
At the self-checkout at the Walmart near me a little man would go around asking if we want to save on groceries by signing up for their credit card.
The fourth or fifth trip there that he did this I had to get a bit ruder until he finally grabbed the self-checkout and clicked the credit card opt-in and I had to tell him to fuck off. He acted shocked but dude I go to self-checkout to avoid human interaction, not be sold a bullshit credit card only a teenager would fall for.
Bullshit.
I know it sounds like a /r/thathappened but it was one of those situations where it built up over several trips to the store of this guy harrassing me to the point where I didn’t want to shop at Walmart anymore. I am averse to confrontation so when he took over my self-checkout to sign up for the credit card I was like, dude fuck off, go away. And he was a bit shocked and acted like I was being dramatic but it was because I hadn’t been more politely forceful in our earlier trips.
Omfg I ran into this at shoppers. Its usually fine at grocery stores but shoppers self checkout is the worst. I think I counted 8 prompts when I used it last time.
I don’t like self checkouts.
I don’t like fiddling with the thing, I don’t like how they lay the interface out (it’s designed to not be efficient, and there’s always so many clicks to pay), I don’t like entering vegetable UPC codes, I don’t like touching the screen 100 other people touched without it being cleaned, and I don’t like feeling like I’m being watched, and I don’t like context switching between scanning, choosing, and bagging.
I just want to load my items onto a belt, the cashier scans them and enters codes, then I bag them. I’ll simply say no to donating and tap my card and leave. Simple.
blazeraI try to do self checkout whenever i can. Cashier is one of the most soul crushing jobs, no one needs to be dealing with food shoppers
I'm the other way around, kind of for a similar reason. I like to use the regular cashier line, because it gives me the opportunity to interact with adult humans outside of my own house. And I take that opportunity to be as supportive and friendly as possible to those people, partly in order to help "uncrush their souls."
Also, I don't like fighting with trying to open the plastic grocery bags, and I'm too forgetful to remember to bring my own bags.
most of the time I dont want to be a captive audience even for someone trying to be friendly. I have to be polite, and Im at work, I cant just leave.
I try hard to relate to people sincerely and as a fellow human being, and not walk over that line between employee and customer. I totally understand that the person is just doing their job, and maybe just doesn't want any more interaction than absolutely necessary. I like to tell quick dadjokes, at the very least, and I feel bad about kind of pressing one on someone who clearly did not want to be a part of my hijinks the other day. I did get a little smirk back, so it wasn't all bad, but still.
On the other hand, for example, another recent shopping trip put me in a cashier line behind someone who was obviously being somewhat difficult to a clearly young cashier. After they cleared out, and after my transaction was complete, I made a point of saying to the young man, "You're doing an excellent job, really. I felt you might have needed to hear that." I wasn't lying, he was being focused and patient, although some of his nervousness was still showing through. He thanked me, and said it was his first day solo on the register. "Well, you're doing great," and I departed.
I have many more experiences like the latter than the former, so I think my approach is doing good overall.
remember we're comparing to self checkout. It's not really a point to say you can cheer someone up after dealing with a rough customer, because neither of those experiences would happen with self checkout. They're somewhere else they'd rather be, it's a job that shouldn't exist.
You're right, and I completely agree that solely using self checkout would dramatically reduce unneccesary, and possibly stressful, customer interactions.
While there are certainly some people who, as employees, enjoy interacting with customers, and even some who enjoy resolving problems and conflicts for customers, I also understand that people who cashier at retail groceries are generally not empowered by management to exercise those kinds of skills.
I also agree with the sentiment that individual human cashiering is "a job that shouldn't exist," although maybe not so completely. There are always going to be transactions which require customer-employee interaction, because they fall outside the more rigidly programmed options available in self checkout. That said, I have watched as self checkouts have grown in both their number and their usage, as the number of employee operated cash registers seems to be declining. McDonald's, for example, doesn't even have cashiers standing at the ready at all times any more. You can go order from a person, at the sole register which exists for that purpose, but you will need to wait for a person to come to you instead of the other way around. Their kiosks and mobile app have made the "row of smiling cashiers awaiting your order" a thing of the past. And I think that level of "self-service" at retail establishments is a well balanced one.
You’re the reason I go to self checkout. You’re seeking out social interactions in a purely business relationship. I want my avocado and grapes and to get the fuck out of there, not stand there while you ask somebody how their day was and whether the weather might be getting cooler this weekend.
In your example, I'm the employee. In actuality, I am the customer. And I try to interact with everyone on a "we're both people with lives and hopes and dreams" sort of basis, not in the banal "weather chat" kind of way.
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So the only “social interaction” a grocery store check-out employee should have are the negative, abusive ones? If I chat pleasantly with a checkout person, I am interfering with your life? Hmmmm……
So the only “social interaction” a grocery store check-out employee should have are the negative, abusive ones? If I chat pleasantly with a checkout person, I am interfering with your life? Hmmmm……
Bruh, why are you on literally every thread telling people there’s no value in going to the cashier? What skin in this game do you have? Are you a grocery store franchisee?
Are plastic bags still a thing anymore? I think Ontario banned them, cause I haven’t seen them anywhere. It’s especially awkward if you use Instacart cause they just keep giving you need reusable bags every time. But even before this, they’ve been dwindling for ages, with lots of big chains no longer having em.
Oh I forgot this was /canada - I'm in Illinois, outside Chicago. Cheap plastic shopping bags as far as the eye can see.
MooseGasMaybe it's just me, but everytime I use a self checkout I end up doing something wrong and have to wait for an attendant to help me. I usually try to just skip the first few steps and just go right to the cashier.
Most self-checkouts range from mildly annoying to downright unusable. Except Home Depot. Home Depot self checkouts are wonderful.
MiddleWeighThey even give you the nice handheld scanner.
QuentinpWalmart ones here generally work ok, the worst seem to be Dollarama which bitch at you about everything. Like this piece of tissue I bought didn’t weight properly so now I have to wait for an employee every other item.
BarrierWithAshesI don't mind self-checkouts, though I will admit most of those systems are utter garbage. What I hate is a worker telling you that "hey the self-checkouts are open here". If I wanted to do self-checkout I wouldn't be waiting in that line. Had some even bait saying "i'll serve you here, but then they just lead you to self-checkout". Their managers should be fired.
I agree. Most of those computers are buggy af, and I tend to opt for live person when possible. But scanning grapes as bananas is worth it sometimes. 💁
I'm a huge self checkout fan, but I think we need more perspective on how shitty ours is sometimes. Loblaws and all of them are way behind on how it should work. Look at the Netherlands and how it's often done there, you walk around with a scanner so you can scan as you go and quickly pay at the end.
Or even better, look at how Uniqlo is doing it. It's all RFID, so you just drop your basket on the checkout, and it scans it all for you basically instantly.
The problem isn't self checkout, it's that the grocery stores are using it to purely cut costs and don't actually care if it's better for the consumer in any way. But hey, at least it's easy to "accidentally" not scan something right now.
Look at the Netherlands and how it's often done there, you walk around with a scanner so you can scan as you go and quickly pay at the end.
Walmart and Sam's Club have this with their Scan & Go app in the US. Scan the barcode with your phone, add it to your cart, pay from your phone, and someone at the door will scan a QR from your phone then scan a few random items in the cart and you're done.
I pretty much wouldn't shop at Sam's if it didn't exist. The checkout lines there have always been long and a pain. It cuts a ton of time standing around waiting in line out of a trip.
SeagullThis commercial was made at least 10 years ago. This is what we need. We have the technology. We just need the price to come down.
IBM RFID Commercial-The Future Supermarket
I steal something or choose the cheaper option on everything every time. I don’t work for free. Need to “make” a couple dollars if you force me to self checkout. Nothing is organic, every apple is a granny Smith. Anything super lightweight is free.
Do you steal snacks at gas stations because you have to pump your own gas?
A false equivalence or false equivalency is an informal fallacy in which an equivalence is drawn between two subjects based on flawed or false reasoning. This fallacy is categorized as a fallacy of inconsistency. Colloquially, a false equivalence is often called “comparing apples and oranges.”
- Attendants used to pump the gas for gas station customers.
- Gas stations no longer have attendants pumping customers’ gas.
- Grocery stores no longer have associates scanning and bagging customers’ groceries.
Such a false equivalence 🙄
They would check your fluids, clean your windshield and it was normal to tip them. Self service stations were at first an options and were cheaper. Sound the same? You only get a discount for self check if you steal, and I’ve never tipped a cashier at a grocery store.
This commercial was made at least 17 years ago. This is what we need. We have the technology. We just need the price to come down.