thorbotjust ignore it
Squire1039It’s a strategy. At least would be labeled as “functional” and not some other things…
HauiYou never talk about the fight club.
You should also never fight about the talk club.
Probably not. :)
Too late… Le sigh.
ℕ𝕠𝕓𝕠𝕕𝕪 𝕆𝕗𝕗𝕚𝕔𝕚𝕒𝕝 ✔️the reason to live
The hot take I’ve heard is that our ancient ancestors had a much higher chance of being killed by predators, so being on edge was an evolutionary advantage. According to this idea, the fear and dread of today is a remnant of our past.
Nah, I think that overstates the extent to which our ancestors were the hunter more than the hunted and ignores the social dimension. An early human might have been at risk for predators when they were out alone hunting or gathering but when you're with the group I'd think that's a much smaller threat. Having to deal with social threats from within the group, now, that's ever-present. And still present today!
Also, after reading a book about the evolution of agency that suggests the evolutionary innovation of humans is that we're a goal-seeking system that's able to function as a part of a larger goal-seeking system (collective action)... I wonder how much that can account for existential dread. We have a diffuse drive to be part of something greater than ourselves but it's not always clear what that should be.
I wouldn’t read too much into that, evolutionary psychology is a pseudoscience: en.wikipedia.org/…/Criticism_of_evolutionary_psyc…
Psychology is already a field full of rough concepts, bad statistics, and low certainties, we mostly have no clue why we’re doing things right now. Adding millions of years and unprovable speculation surely doesn’t help.
If "evolutionary psychology" is pseudoscience (which is debatable to begin with), it's that way not because our evolutionary history doesn't inform our psychology but because our understanding of both those things is too immature for the questions most people are are trying to answer. But that in itself depends on the questions and the level of answer one finds acceptable. I've found Michael Tomasello's book "The Evolution of Agency" perfectly proportionate in the kinds of questions it seeks to answer given the information it has, and I think the wild speculations I extrapolate from it are totally fine to share in random internet conversations.
Why is everyone so anxious nowadays?
What's there to dread?
People are worried about getting the tops of their heads cropped off. Its become an epidemic.
Happened to a friend of a friend of mine. He never recovered.
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Nuh-uh! Dread is a judge!
I, for one, almost died at a mass shooting.
My body has left in a permanent state of pain and suffering, where every few days the pain intensifies and there is next to nothing I can do about it.
What about you?
That's not existential dread, that's just everyday "life sucks" though
I’m in a permanent constant state of pain everyday. My entire existence is pain. I’m not sure what else you need me to go through to prove my existential dread.
Existential dread by definition has no specific definable cause. That's not existential dread.
I don’t know why you’re gate keepint existential dread, but here is the APA’s definition: “a profound, deep-seated psychic or spiritual condition of insecurity and despair in relation to the human condition and the meaning of life.”
I’m feeling plenty of despair to the human condition and the meaning of life. I wake up everyday and ask myself why live and exist at all when existence is nothing but pain.
I'm not gatekeeping, it's just the definition.
Can you tell me where you got your definition from, and what it is?
Same. Definition you gave, you're just misinterpreting it.
"in relation to the human condition and the meaning of life." Not your life specifically, life in general. The general human condition, not your specific circumstances. It's a pretty common phrase.
Tell me then, what is the general human condition? Is it the experiences of the ‘average person’? I hate to break it to you, but this person doesn’t exist.
Who are you to decide who is and isn’t included in the general human condition?
I mean if you don't understand the concept by now then your way of seeing the world is so fundamentally abnormal that it's not worth the effort for me to find a specific combination of words that makes you understand it. You seem to lack the understanding of what a forest is, you only see a specific number of trees, or a statistical average of each and every one of those trees. You can't conceptualize something generally applicable to all people
I’m not asking you because I don’t understand it, I’m asking you because I don’t think you understand it lol.
I have anxiety. It’s funny because I don’t feel anything until it happens.its like my brain remembers “hey you should feel bad” and it happens, otherwise I’m cool as a cucumber
Does yours feel like an unwanted guest arriving in your consciousness? Like you feel it arrive before you even start having anxious thoughts?
I definitely do feel it arrive. I’m not sure how to word it except it feels like everything is going to turn out bad and I have to talk myself manually that everything will be fine. This goes for things as simple as a haircut , meeting or any kind of socializing.
Yep, that lines up pretty well with my experience! Glad to know I have a kindred spirit, haha
Why is everyone so anxious nowadays?
For me it’s financial, though as a middle-aged person I am nowadays also plagued with metaphysical questions.
About the financial part, I’m actually very well-off but the world has become such a complex place (or it always was and I am only realizing it now at my age) and I have little to no control over most aspects of it. I don’t want to lose what I have worked towards because of geo-politics, climate change impact, global recession, or such things. It’s not an existential crisis for me but there is some amount of anxiety and dread that I previously did not have.
Are people more anxious or is it just more acceptable to talk about it??
Must be nice to be so comfy
Avoidance of dread breeds more dread.
Classic Traeger moment
Bottomless Pit Of Despair
VCTRNAs a late 30s, shit like this stop being funny, because hit too close to home.
Yeah happened to me too in the late 30s. This is the real midlife crisis, trying to come to terms with existential nihilism, it’s not buying a fucking red convertible…
I was dealing with some pretty intense nihilism after my beloved dog passed away. I had thoughts like “Why put effort into anything when in 100/1000/10000 years everything I love and care about will be dead, gone, and forgotten?” It’s a terrible philosophy to have and live with, incredibly depressing. I was able to escape mine through meditation with some chemical assistance. Realized that just because things don’t last forever doesn’t mean they don’t have meaning. The fact that we’re alive and conscious, experiencing things everyday, means our lives have value. The cosmic odds of us existing here and now are staggering, we’re so lucky to be alive! So, to me the value is in the experiences, in the day to day.
(early 30s, also bought sports car)
I have gone through the same thought process, and I like to think of it as positive nihilism. The fact that everything is temporary and nothing really matters means that meaning & importance are created in our minds. That can help to give yourself permission to spend your limited time on things that (for whatever reason) matter to YOU.
I tried to lean into that as well, something like nothing matters so you can do whatever makes you happy! I couldn’t quiet get it to work for myself, but I know several very happy people living by that philosophy.
The koi pond + pets solution definitely sounds like the right move! Having pets during the pandemic kept me sane.
If you don’t mind me asking, what kind of fun car did you get and what are you thinking of getting? I’m a big car guy and love hearing about people’s cars :D
Absolutely! When my sensible reliable used ‘99 Honda Accord sedan(with a 5 speed!) blew a freaking cylinder valve on a road trip, I got myself a 2006 WRX. Damned good car. It kept me safe when it got totaled by some asshat in a pickup truck, and got replaced with the family SUV. But we have a 2012 Mazda 3 too, and that’s what I drive on my back country road to work!
My next car, once I’m ready, I hope to essentially be the electric to the WRX. The best example right now is probably a Tesla model 3 performance. Basically, dual motor AWD with the instant low-end torque and super car 0-60 of ~3 seconds — if that can be part of my daily life for normal-car-ish cost (given that I am also into cars) it seems like a loss to not have that experience in my life.
There are already some great alternatives out there, but given the changing market right now, whichever car I get might not even exist yet.
Nice! I had a 1995 Accord coupe, a 2005 Accord coupe, and a 2015 Accord coupe. Loved those cars, amazing daily drivers that had a splash of fun and style. It’s truly a tragedy they discontinued it.
WRXs are rad, excellent choices! A friend of mine rented a Model 3 Performance and took me for a ride in it. The acceleration is absurd!
Why put effort into anything when in 100/1000/10000 years everything I love and care about will be dead, gone, and forgotten?
I had a slightly different question: what’s the point of doing anything if it’ll end? In other words: anything achievable is not worth doing.
I haven’t really found an answer to this, it just stopped bothering me, though one potential answer was: happiness and wisdom. Wisdom is unachievable because there’s always more to understand, and happiness is not a stable state since we’re hardwired not to be perpetually happy because we wouldn’t do anything if we were. Thus those two things can be chased always, they don’t end, and then you die. After that you have no more problems.
(Mid 20s, don’t like driving)
Ha, as if I had the money to lol
Do you too have a letter from the municipal that you need to open but keep stalling because you somehow know yet don’t know what’s in it ?
I too am a late 30s and I find this funny because of how close it hits to home
DestideMy brain did a nice little theme tune with Oppenheimer like anxiety sounds
Upbeat and Happy Background Music
Oh wow. YT could not have been ready for me to play the little theme tune. They usually expect things more like eps2.4_m4ster_s1ave.aes
Fck. This is me. Jesus. Keep busy!
Why is this cropped so poorly?
NickwithaCTo avoid giving the original artist credit and also to avoid repost detection on Reddit.
I didn’t crop it. I just stole it from elsewhere
Climate change is going to kill us all reasonably slowly, but it’s OK because we’re in the brink of nuclear war which will kill us quickly… Unfortunately, where I live isn’t a historic nuclear target, but areas around me are, so I’ll not be vaporised, and have to endure the chaos…
But… It’s pizza day tomorrow so there’s that.
If there actually is nuclear war the fallout will affect the whole world. Even if you aren’t near the blast you’ll get a nice dose of radiation on the wind.
Yea, problem is I can shield in place whilst the worst passes and still be alive…
Damn dude…
It’s pizza day for me today! About to go pick it up right now actually. Stay strong 💪 thru the wait!!
Fuckin sweet… What you having?
Cheese pizza, pan crust, jalapenos, extra cheese, well done.
Was delicious and they actually baked it extra for once, even tho I ask for it ever time.
MasterNerdI live an hour from an a facility used in the Manhattan project. Wish me luck