For nearly 5 years, I've been trying to figure out what this adapter is supposed to connect to. It's still a mystery. Someday, the right person is going to see this post and they'll finally solve this puzzle.

#VintageComputing / #RetroComputing

@Cloudscout tigertronics radio. You can buy another one on amazon if you lose this one !

https://www.amazon.com/Tigertronics-Cable-ICOM-13-PIN-PORT/dp/B00AR0BGBU

Amazon.com

@dplattsf @Cloudscout

A ham radio that uses a mouse?

I think this a red herring. At least the 13-pin connector is a match though.

@ne1for23 @Cloudscout - actually, that model of ham radio does have a mouse! I think we have a winner https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mL7RPtvkmV4
Ham Radio Basics Icom 7610 Mouse Tuning Revealed and SOLVED!

YouTube

@dplattsf @Cloudscout

A ham radio that uses a USB mouse isn't the winner (image from the video). 🫀

The ICOM IC-7610 manual also reveals this radio is from 2017, a far cry from the 90s this cable was made around.

https://icomuk.co.uk/files/icom/PDF/productManual/IC-7610_ENG_Basic_1.pdf

@dplattsf @Cloudscout

So what is at the end of the cable you found on Amazon? A mini din data port, not mouse connections.

https://www.passion-radio.com/interface-cable/slusb-13i-1487.html

Signalink SLCAB13I Mini DIN Data 13-pin Icom cable cord

Radio interface cable available in Europe, price and purchase at Passion Radio, shipped within 24h to 48h on material in stock, Signalink SLCAB-13I Mini-DIN 13-pin DATA radio cable for Icom from Tigertronics SIGNALINK-CABLE-SLCAB13I-1487

@dplattsf

This wouldn't be the first time someone has guessed a ham radio before and it still may ultimately be the correct guess as ICOM apparently has been using this 13-pin DIN for years.

@Cloudscout never did map out the cable wiring though.

https://nitter.poast.org/Cloudscout/status/1091570232320319488#m

The model referenced in the image (ICOM IC-7200) is from 2008 per the manual, so not the correct period and odd to be supporting a bus mouse that late.

https://icomuk.co.uk/files/icom/PDF/productManual/IC-7200%20instruction%20manual.pdf

Matthew Sparby (@Cloudscout)

I'll map the pinout to see if it has a rational alignment to radios.

Nitter

@dplattsf

In researching this, I found myself referencing this bus mouse page on the Deskthority wiki more often than I expected.

https://deskthority.net/wiki/Bus_mouse

@Cloudscout says this is "from the first Mac transition era (68k-PPC)".

https://oldbytes.space/@Cloudscout/110839857284372758

That page has me thinking it is older than 1994. Also, the fact that bus mouse can be adapted to a serial adapter would make the argument that the wiring all translates to serial and was only intended to use one port at a time with a mouse.

Bus mouse - Deskthority wiki

@ne1for23 @Cloudscout rabbit (sorry mouse) hole .. USB was 1996, so maybe had a previous serial technology before the usb but would they have had an lcd screen that early with mouse? That seems unlikely for ham radio though as you say they love their din ports.

@dplattsf

"a previous serial technology"? Like RS-232 first introduced in 1960? 😏

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RS-232#History

But it would also have to be after the first bus mice in 1986 for the port to exist on the cable.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_mouse

And the LCD isn't relevant. You could benefit from mouse based tuning and click to talk on a ham radio without seeing a display output. Its just saying that the video of a modern ham radio you found isn't the device @Cloudscout's cable is for.

RS-232 - Wikipedia

@dplattsf @Cloudscout

What if...? The missing piece to the puzzle is ham radio tuning software for classic Macs and PC? πŸ€”

This would address the desire for visual output without anything on the ham radio itself.

One thing that bothers me is that classic Mac serial port. Mice from Classic macs didn't plug into the serial port and weren't serial. It would have to be used for actual serial communication from a Mac, giving this software a plausible reason to exist.

@ne1for23 @Cloudscout so god way too much reading but it makes sense. The ICOM 13 pin output is for data mode. If you are using it for a data link, it’s how you get your PC/Mac modem transmitting from serial port on PC to the ham radio link. (struggling to get a clean link from search engine but search for β€œ Digital Setup Examples for ICOM 718”