Any way to listen to music (privately?)

https://lemmy.ml/post/3091806

Any way to listen to music (privately?) - Lemmy

I’m going insane. I cannot for the life of me find a suitable way to listen to music privately. I’m on iOS, and I don’t know whether to just stick to Apple Music or give up on music in general (I tried, TRIED to go local, but all the apps are shitty). Any way to listen to music and not have your data compromised? Should I just stick to Apple Music and hope that laws change (maybe something like EU’s DMA?)

I’ll be honest, the only way to listen to music privately is to download it.

There are Github repositories with CLI programs to download complete Spotify playlists with Youtube and also download their metadata.

there are also CDs and vinyl 🤷
Whoa, you can store music on CDs? That’ll save me a lot of bandwidth!

something brilliant I've found with modern vinyl is a lot of them come with a download card so you can get lossless files.

now if they would just fucking advertise which ones that would be great.

This. There was music before the internet.
Any opensource music players for iOS you recommend? I found Flacbox which seems alright (a little buggy but you can’t win them all, can you?)
I just use the Music app. With the privacy protections turned up and Apple Music disabled. All it does is ply my aac files without sending data back to Apple.
I’m not sure that’s totally true. The iOS ecosystem is very intertwined. It’s possible that the Music app isn’t sending data to Apple, but it is likely sharing it with whatever Apple calls the launcher, which likely shares it with Apple (or shares it with Siri or another app, which shares it with Apple).
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Its not opensource, but i use documents5 (or 6 now?) by readdle and its been p good for music

I wrote a few scripts to automate this entire process for me:

zemmy.cc/post/25500?scrollToComments=true

I’ve just created my perfect automated music setup, including getting new recommendations - Zemmy

cross-posted from: https://zemmy.cc/post/25499 [https://zemmy.cc/post/25499] > You may have seen my previous post over here [https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/770169], after I had just gotten everything setup initially. > > I’ve now expanded this with an additional script, a github repo [https://github.com/Zetaphor/personal-auto-radio], and proper documentation. > > Here’s a cleaner explanation: > > I’ve taken on the challenge of self-hosting more of the services I regularly depend on. The latest target is Spotify. This meant I needed a simple and convenient way to listen to my music from anywhere, get new music into my collection, and also still receive recommendations based on my interests and listening habits. > > I now have what I think is the pretty ideal setup, here’s what it includes: > > * A 24/7 radio station that plays my entire catalog (link here if you’re interested [radio.zetaphor.com/]). This is powered by Azuracast [https://www.azuracast.com/] along with the scripts in the repo. The station link is using the Public Pages feature in Azuracast with a bunch of custom CSS. > > * A Spotify-like experience that also supports mobile and offline. This is powered by Navidrome [https://www.navidrome.org/] for web/desktop and Substreamer [https://substreamerapp.com/] for mobile. Substreamer connects to Navidrome using the Subsonic API. > > * A couple of scripts that allow me to easily download tracks/albums/playlists from Spotify and Youtube. I used these to bootstrap the collection and export my existing playlists from each service. > > * A couple of scripts that automatically grab my latest recommendations from Spotify and LastFM, add them into Navidrome, and provide me a nearly fully automated way to parse out tracks I want to keep permanently. > > That last point is the most interesting part in my opinion. Both scripts run on a weekly cron job that downloads my Discover Weekly playlist from spotify, and current recommendations from LastFM. It then creates a playlist for each source for that weeks collection and moves it into Navidrome. > > I then browse that weeks playlist at my leisure, using the “star” feature in Navidrome to decide what to keep. Once I’m done I run another script manually that takes all of the starred tracks from those two playlists and moves them into my catalog, and then deletes the remaining tracks and the playlists. > > This means I just need to go through and listen to recommendations and click a button on what to keep, and the rest is discarded automatically. It really doesn’t get any simpler than this! > > What remains will then be available for on-demand playback through Navidrome and also added to the full catalog that powers the 24/7 radio station. > > FAQs from the last thread > > What is being used to download from X? - spotdl is being used for Spotify.pytube is being used for LastFM and Youtube. spotdl is also just downloading tracks from Youtube under the hood. > > What is the audio quality of the downloaded tracks? - Since these are coming from Youtube, everything is a 128kbps VBR Opus codec. It’s certainly not FLAC but it’s good enough for my enjoyment.

Have a copy of all your music and use syncthing if apple allows it that is. Otherwise get a deegoogled android running grapheneOS
Getting/syncing music isn’t really a major problem for me, a decent audio player (with minimal features such as a queue and a decent UI) is what I’m trying to find.

VLC?

I feel like all the answers are so far beyond what I do. Basically VPN to Invidio.us, record with Audio Hijack, put on my phone, and play on VLC. Curious what all the elite privateers think?

Why vpn you invidio.us? Why not directly? Invidio.us acts as the middle man to yt anyway, right?
Why record with an app? Some invidious insurances allow downloading. There’s a drop-down menu on the video page.
Right, if dl'able then no need to record. I was trying to list my method in the most general sense.
Setup a Koel instance at a host of your choice. Upload your music to it and stream from that. See koel.dev
Koel

Music streaming server that works

This looks really promising, thanks!

If you want a streaming service, you could try HyperPipe. It’s an alternative frontend to YT Music. There’s also BeatBump, but it doesn’t really work.

If you wanted to go local (which I recommend), have you tried foobar2000? It’s proprietary, but I trust it and it does its job very well. No ads, no data collection at all, and it plays just about every audio format you’ll normally come across (apart from MIDI files). You can also customise it with skins, sync over FTP, and play internet radio streams.

‎foobar2000

‎foobar2000 mobile is an advanced audio player for mobile devices. Main features: * Supported audio formats: MP3, MP4, AAC, Vorbis, Opus, FLAC, WavPack, WAV, AIFF, Musepack. * Gapless playback. * ReplayGain support - automatic playback volume adjustment. * Supports playback and downloading music fro…

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First of all, I love this thread as I keep finding new stuff I’ve never heard about. HyperPipe is awesome and it eases my anxiety that there are still private options for music. For foobar, the iOS app is pretty snappy, though it’s missing a queue feature. A feature as simple as that is kind of a deal breaker for me. Any hope that there’ll be future updates to the iOS app?
AFAIK the app is still maintained. I could put a feature request in on the forums.
I don’t think you should expect any privacy on an Apple device
Im on a Jailbroken iPhone with all Apple network requests blocked with AdGuard and no Appleid.
Any way you could share the guide you used?
+1 would really like to know more
How to Sideload apps, How to Jailbreak, Jailbreak Megathread. AdGuard Pro .ipa. My Blocklst Lists. The lists are Very aggressive, I suggest you to maintain a Whitelist. For getting apps without an Apple ID, check out some sources, repo’s and telegram channels Here.
[GUIDE] A complete guide to sideloading - Lemmy

A complete guide to sideloading Updated June 2023 *** # For free with a jailbreak. Requirements * A Jailbroken iPhone/iPad Step by Step Guide * Go to your package manager and add Havoc.app [https://havoc.app/] as a source. * Search for TrollStore Helper and install it. * Open TrollStore Helper and install TrollStore. * Open TrollStore, press on the + sign and install an ipa file. # For free without a jailbreak but with a computer * You will have no revokes if you connect to your Wifi at least once every 7 days * If you encounter any problems, visit the official guide for Windows [https://faq.altstore.io/getting-started/how-to-install-altstore-windows] or for macOS [https://faq.altstore.io/getting-started/how-to-install-altstore-macos] * Thank you to u/TechnologicalFreedom [https://libreddit.kavin.rocks/user/TechnologicalFreedom] for the guide [https://libreddit.kavin.rocks/r/sideloaded/comments/orqzau/guide_a_complete_beginners_guide_to_sideloading/] Requirements * A Windows computer or a Mac * Lightning to Usb A Cable * iTunes This method of sideloading takes advantage of tools designed for developers to test their apps before releasing them onto the App Store, with a free developer account you don’t get push notifications and the apps will expire every 7 days (meaning every week they stop working until you give them new signatures). Also you can only have three apps on your phone at a time using this method and altstore is one of them so you can pretty much only have two real apps at a time. To keep the apps fresh and non-expired we’ll be using a piece of software called altserver and alt Store, this software automatically keeps the apps from expiring by wirelessly connecting to your iPhone from your computer to “Refresh” The apps. This guide will be using Windows 10, this will also probably work the same exact way on macOS too. Step by Step Guide * First step is to download and install a piece of software called altstore, found here [https://altstore.io]. * Once you install it go to your start menu and run altserver, now plug your iPhone into your computer. * Go down to the taskbar in the little menu of icons and right click the little alt server icon. * Now press “Install altserver” * Now it’ll ask you for your iCloud credentials, don’t worry this is not a scam, I’d suggest using an alternate iCloud account for this (it has to be one that your signed into on your iPhone and you can have multiple accounts on your iPhone at once so it’s not a big deal anyway). * Once you do that, continue with the installation, you’ll see a piece of software appear on your iPhone called “Altstore” * Launch it and put the same iCloud details into the app. * Now you’ll need to leave altserver running on your computer for it to work properly and sometimes it won’t work properly in which case you’ll just have to troubleshoot it unfortunately because the problems can vary on a number of factors. * Now you can go into altstore on your iPhone/iPad and sideload apps! Just press the plus button to sideload any ipa file. # For free without a jailbreak or a computer Important Are you on iOS version 14.0 - 15.1.1? You can install ipa files without revokes, visit this guide: TrollStore [https://github.com/opa334/TrollStore] 1- You don’t have access to a computer? You will be able to install ipa files but they may be revoked (the apps wont open anymore) Step by Step Guide * Go to appdb.to/link [http://appdb.to/link] * Enter your e-mail and press on “Link your device” * Download the configuration profile * Go to the files app and open "link_to_appdb’ * Open settings and press on “Profile Downloaded” * Click “Install” * Enter your passcode * Press “Next” * Press “Install” * Press “Trust” * Open AppDB or appdb.to [http://appdb.to] * Install any app listed or follow this guide to install your ipa’s * Press on your device, should be called something like “Iphone 11” * Press on “Install custom application” * Press on “Upload ipa file(s)” * Press on Chose Files * Chose your ipa file * Press on open * Wait for it to upload * Click on the .ipa file you uploaded * Done! #### Not Recommended, see here [https://t.me/eternity_ipa/341] 2- You don’t have access to a computer? Method 2 You will be able to install ipa files but they may be revoked (the apps wont open anymore) Step by Step Guide * Go to https://usescarlet.com/#install [https://usescarlet.com/#install] * Press “Install’ * Press 'Direct Install” * Wait 10 seconds * Press OK on the bottom of the screen * Press “Install” * Wait a minute * Go to Settings>General>VPN,DNS & Device Management * Press on the box under “Entreprise app” * It should look something like “XCMG Foundation Construction Machinery CO., Ltd.” * Press on Trust “XCMG Foundation Construction Machinery CO., Ltd.” * Press “Trust” * Open Scarlet * Press on the middle download button * Press on the download button and chose the ipa file you want to install. Visit the MEGATHREAD [https://lemmy.ml/post/1154731] for ipa repo’s

Awesome! Thank you!
Welcome! Contact me if you need any additional info, its a pretty steep learning curve.
Honestly, I’d trust a vanilla iPhone over that hacked together mess you’ve got going there.
You may be right if you are not as concerned about privacy and being able to not rely on the App Store for everything. I can install any app that is not in the App Store. Ex: new encryption laws come out like in the UK and all Matrix clients are removed from the App Store. I can still download them because I don’t rely on the App Store.
It’s pretty pricey but I enjoy MusicFab
I self host Ampache and have Sublime Music on my desktop and Substreamer (on Play or Aurora or your APK mirror of choice) on my Android device.
Ampache

Ampache.org

I buy music from 7Digital and Bandcamp, store the files on Plex Media Server and use PlexAmp for playback on my iOS device.
Gotta pirate it unfortunately. Buy it on band camp and support the artists directly, then host it yourself. Navidrone works great.
Do people not just download music anymore?
I'm 26, and don't know anyone, myself included, who purchases and downloads music to any significant degree. Essentially everyone I know just uses streaming platforms.
Sounds terrible for privacy.
Respectfully, I think you may be drastically overestimating how much average people care about that.

Well, considering the community this discussion is in...

And, respectfully, the average person doesn't seem to give much of a fuck about anything other their own base desires most of the time.

Sure. But the question you asked was "Do people not just download music anymore?", and the answer to that question, which you seemed unaware of, is "Not really, no".

Do enjoy your highly refined and elevated desires, O noble one.

How to undermine one’s own comment with a gratuitous insult.
Part of my job is traveling by air, so I got a $30ish sandisc mp3 player with a 200+gb sd card. I have a bunch of music and sometimes podcasts on there. Saves my phone battery, no ads at all, and has fm radio for surfing the stations below as they fade in and out every minute or so.
My solution to this was download everything on to my 256 gb phone, so I have about 50 gb of Spotify songs/podcasts and usually switch between various playlist downloads depending on what I’m listening to
He didn’t say anything about purchasing…
to be fair, to buy albums off sites like bandcamp, cutting out greedy multinational media conglomerates and give the money to the ppl actually working on it (yeah, i know, fees, welcome to distribution) and getting basically every (losslees/hr) codec in return for "name your price"-conditions makes it questionable to pirate some indie album to save like three bucks.
Wow, they got your generation good. I’m over here listening to flac files and mp3s I ripped in 2003.
I have my music library that I listen to, to which I add songs by getting them from youtube (it’s good enough for my cheap on the go earphones). Sometimes I tune into radio stations that offer nonstop music (like stubru tijdloze).
This is always surprising to me. I can understand streaming video due to their high file sizes, but audio (even FLACs) is a lot smaller in general. The only reason I use spotify sometimes is to discover new stuff.
I use a jellyfin server plus finamp for ios plus totally legal downloaded music that was 100% legally obtained.
+1 for Jellyfin with Finamp (or Fintunes). Also what I use and it’s fabulous.
What kind of psychopath uses Amazon music? Like I’m already appaled people would use apple music, Amazon music just seems mental…
Of the 3 listed, Apple Music is by far the best. And yes, I’ve used all 3.
Apple Music has very good quality, packs some value, a very beautiful and intuitive UI (if you like apple design which I do), all the features you would expect, and a large selection. I also don't get Amazon though

If you’re able and willing to self-host, I’ve developed a pretty great system that automates my entire process. The app I’m using on mobile is also available on iOS

zemmy.cc/post/25500

I’ve just created my perfect automated music setup, including getting new recommendations - Zemmy

cross-posted from: https://zemmy.cc/post/25499 [https://zemmy.cc/post/25499] > You may have seen my previous post over here [https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/770169], after I had just gotten everything setup initially. > > I’ve now expanded this with an additional script, a github repo [https://github.com/Zetaphor/personal-auto-radio], and proper documentation. > > Here’s a cleaner explanation: > > I’ve taken on the challenge of self-hosting more of the services I regularly depend on. The latest target is Spotify. This meant I needed a simple and convenient way to listen to my music from anywhere, get new music into my collection, and also still receive recommendations based on my interests and listening habits. > > I now have what I think is the pretty ideal setup, here’s what it includes: > > * A 24/7 radio station that plays my entire catalog (link here if you’re interested [radio.zetaphor.com/]). This is powered by Azuracast [https://www.azuracast.com/] along with the scripts in the repo. The station link is using the Public Pages feature in Azuracast with a bunch of custom CSS. > > * A Spotify-like experience that also supports mobile and offline. This is powered by Navidrome [https://www.navidrome.org/] for web/desktop and Substreamer [https://substreamerapp.com/] for mobile. Substreamer connects to Navidrome using the Subsonic API. > > * A couple of scripts that allow me to easily download tracks/albums/playlists from Spotify and Youtube. I used these to bootstrap the collection and export my existing playlists from each service. > > * A couple of scripts that automatically grab my latest recommendations from Spotify and LastFM, add them into Navidrome, and provide me a nearly fully automated way to parse out tracks I want to keep permanently. > > That last point is the most interesting part in my opinion. Both scripts run on a weekly cron job that downloads my Discover Weekly playlist from spotify, and current recommendations from LastFM. It then creates a playlist for each source for that weeks collection and moves it into Navidrome. > > I then browse that weeks playlist at my leisure, using the “star” feature in Navidrome to decide what to keep. Once I’m done I run another script manually that takes all of the starred tracks from those two playlists and moves them into my catalog, and then deletes the remaining tracks and the playlists. > > This means I just need to go through and listen to recommendations and click a button on what to keep, and the rest is discarded automatically. It really doesn’t get any simpler than this! > > What remains will then be available for on-demand playback through Navidrome and also added to the full catalog that powers the 24/7 radio station. > > FAQs from the last thread > > What is being used to download from X? - spotdl is being used for Spotify.pytube is being used for LastFM and Youtube. spotdl is also just downloading tracks from Youtube under the hood. > > What is the audio quality of the downloaded tracks? - Since these are coming from Youtube, everything is a 128kbps VBR Opus codec. It’s certainly not FLAC but it’s good enough for my enjoyment.

I still buy CDs. And back then up to play in my truck. And rip them.

I still think OWNING media is a good idea. No privacy issues at all.

Most of the stuff I listen to isn’t mainstream and the band are on Bandcamp. It’s great being able to buy the FLAC version right away.

https://isitbandcampfriday.com/

it's worth noting that the first friday of each month they usually forgo their fees

Is it Bandcamp Friday?

Is it?

Always this, never let physical copies die. They can’t revoke shit legally bought and personally archived