Manjaro is training wheels except when it’s time to take them off you realize they’re super-glued in place

if you want to use Arch, just use Arch

Its ok, but the Arch repos are very limited limited and I can’t recommend using AUR much.

Better try Fedora.

if you want an Arch based distro, Endeavour OS is more popular – Manjaro has had a few issues over the years

If you want to divorce yourself from Ubuntu (and I think that’s a good idea myself) you can always run Linux Mint Debian Edition. Since you’re so new to Linux, I would stick with Linux Mint as your daily driver and take the time to really learn the command line, shell scripting, process control, and everything Unix-like. Get good with tools like awk, sed, grep, find, and learn about regex. Distro hopping won’t help to really learn the ins and outs.

Also take time to learn tools like iptables/nftables, ip route, IP forwarding. There’s so much you can learn without distro hopping. Once you become well versed in all things command line, then you can start searching for use case specific distro. I use Arch myself but it’s not for the beginning user.

The whole thing with holding back package updates for a some weeks doesn’t make a ton of sense to me, especially given that to my understanding security updates are often held back as well. The main advantage over Arch is that it has a graphical installer, but IMO Arch really isn’t that hard to install now with archinstall being a thing.

In another vein, they’ve let their website certificate expire on multiple occasions, and have shipped pamac versions that have ended up DDoSing the AUR on multiple occasions as well. All this hints at some fairly serious mismanagement and doesn’t exactly lend itself to the implicit trust required of distro maintainers.

I did use Manjaro for a decent stretch before eventually switching to Arch, and functionally I didn’t notice any difference after switching apart from the AUR manager I used and packages making their way to my system sooner. This is a big part of why I say I don’t really see the point.

I used Ubuntu for a month. Switched to Manjaro for 9 months, then went to Artix Linux where I’ve been for 2 years.

Manjaro has quite a few issues which I think are addressed by EndeavorOS, which would be my personal recommendation.

A rolling release distro does require a bit more attention, however, as you should be updating your system more regularly and you’ll occassionally run into dependency issues depending on how many you install.

This usually requires being a bit familiar with the command line and how to properly search internet resources to find answers to specific bugs. The Arch Wiki is an incredible resource about computers in general and worth looking into for pretty much anyone imho.

You’ll want to also look into using the AUR, as eventually you’ll find that you’ll want/need a piece of software that isn’t in the official repositories.

If you want to try out other distros without friction, spin up a virtual machine via Gnome Boxes or virt-manager with some different distros

I don’t have the time to always be doing crazy power user stuff and just want something that works out of the box.

otherwise why change whats running for you?

tbh i never had any problems with it while toying around with it (i’m a debian stable type, anything else is a flirtation) and it works just fine for gamery and such but they have some significant flaws in their operation which makes them unfit for serious computer click clacking imo (im no software nerd or anything, just been using linux since forever). certificate expirations, financial goofery, there’s just better distros including rolling with straight arch.

I don’t know much about the console and such magic which probably makes me not exactly predestined for an Arch-based distro with the AUR where I feel like you can break more than in some more common ones like Mint. Despite that, I have been on Manjaro for years now, still learned only the very basics, but have not found a more stable distro that works so well out-of-the-box with some of the newer hardware I have (or had, it’s hardly new anymore). Also, I did in fact find the repos combined with careful use of the AUR to be satisfying. I did distro-hop a lot especially in the beginning of my Linux adventure and was on Mint for a couple of years as well. And that’s what I generally recommend to the other non-tech-savvy folks around me as well: Just try a bunch of the top distros on Distrowatch for a couple of weeks. They all have their advantages and disadvantages but eventually you’ll figure out what it really is that you want from a distro and which ones work properly with your hardware – and you’ll learn about some fixes for common issues which helps the learning about Linux in general. There are probably folks who know much more than me who can tell you if Manjaro is objectively better than its bad reputation but from my personal experience as a fellow Linux noob: I found it very stable, decently accessible and the KDE spin with its many themes absolutely beautiful.

Fedora is nice, not based on Ubuntu, and it mostly “just works” out of the box. The only obnoxious part is having to manually install codecs to play videos.

It’s mostly fine but has enough issues I stopped using it for my “I want arch but I’m lazy” distro. Arch itself is really not hard to install these days but if you find it too intimidating endeavor is basically just arch anyway but with an installer.

I ran Manjaro for a couple of years as my daily driver before moving on to EndeavourOS. At this point I’ve probably spent an equal amount of time on both distros.

Their holding back of arch packages might sound like a good idea, but in reality not so much. Most of the time the same oopsies slip through with a bit of delay. Other times being out of sync with AUR causes additional issues. Arch stable is already stable, so holding back is just extra work with no gain in my book. Any additional testing effort would be better spent on Arch testing instead of doing the same work with delay.

I run Manjaro as my gaming rig and have had no real issues.

Its ok. The logo looks crap but it has everything I needed already installed where other distros required me to configure or set stuff up. I’ve had no manjaro related issues over the last 2 years and it’s the only distro that hasn’t come with an issue out of the box.

Pop os and mint are great I don’t think they should be written off just because they’re Ubuntu based. Fedora is solid, endeavor and Garuda are arch based and good as well. All the people saying arch requires no setup now that it has an installer are wrong. It will set you up with a barebones system and you’ll have to customize from there which can be a hassle if you aren’t familiar with linux.

manjaro is my backup os for my primary endeavourOS, and it has never failed me in the last 5 years. one time there was an issue with manjaro lagging behind aur which was solved a few days later and wasn't a big deal. the only reason is not my primary is bc I just like endeavourOS a tad more

I’m not a fan for a few reasons, but they’re all on my end.

I will say, though, that if you “don’t have time to always be doing crazy power user stuff,” an Arch based distro might not be what you’re looking for. This is especially true of an Arch based distro that strays pretty far from the core distribution.

My suggestion would be to try Fedora or OpenSuse Tumbleweed instead. I’m a big Fedora fan, and it’s honestly great - much better than Ubuntu IMHO. It’s also easy to maintain and less prone to user-induced breakage than Arch distros.

If you’re looking for something even more different, but still not prone to breakage, then you might try looking into an immutable distro. Silverblue, OpenSuse Aeon, blendOS, or VanillaOS are all nice places to start looking.

It’s ok, if you’re willing to read the Forum once in a while and inform yourself before applying upgrades.

I have several family members and friends on Manjaro for the last several years. I have had virtually no need to intervene with it on their behalf, and these are users with zero linux knowledge (one of them believes they have a Mac because I pimped the UI to look like OSX).

Despite the detractors, I think it’s the least hassle distro I’ve encountered, and I’ve used Linux for 25 years.

What even is an unbiased opinion? That doesn’t even begin to make sense.

That being said, my very biased opinion is that it’s a great way to install Arch without learning how Arch works so that when it inevitably breaks you don’t even know how to ask the right questions.

I’ve had more success with Manjaro than any other distro. I’ve gotten lots of software working because of the great package manager, all using a GUI. I think it’s really easy to use and at the same time really flexible and powerful. I’ve tried to install Arch twice and failed both times. I guess I’m an idiot. Manjaro is easy to install and you get all the power a flexibility of Arch’s package management.