VickyAug 7, 2023

BMW

https://lemmy.world/post/2812539

BMW - Lemmy.world

Show threadChrobin
I recently was in the BMW museum and they actually had a whole section dedicated to their Nazi past and how they want to never do that again. Do with that what you will but at least they’re not shoving it under the carpet.
Aug 7, 2023 at 7:48pmWeb
Show threadzaphAug 7, 2023
It’s important not to forget the past. If America treated slavery the same way we’d be a lot further socially.
Show threadNathanielThomasAug 7, 2023
If America treated . the same way we’d be a lot further as a society
Show threadTangent5280Aug 7, 2023
Is that a face or are you referring to the asterisk wildcard and implying you can put any social evil instead of the asterisk?
Show threadNathanielThomasAug 7, 2023
Was trying to do the star dot star thing when you search for something in Windows. What’s the programming equivalent of “everything”?
Show threadHessiaNerdAug 7, 2023
You don’t need the dot unless you want to exclude files without extensions.
Show threadNikaAug 14, 2023
Just an asterisk. . Doesn’t include files without an extension.
Show thread5redie8Aug 8, 2023
As a helpdesk tech this command made me chuckle
Show threadox0rAug 7, 2023

Reminder that the USA was a big inspiration for the nazis.

They pretty much wanted to make a USA II

Show threadBedSharkPalAug 8, 2023
It’s not like they used IQ tests as justification for forced sterilization or anything… Wait what?
Show threadBigNoteAug 8, 2023
Yes and no. They also saw the US as ethnically impure and therefore weak. The 4th Reich wasn’t going to have that problem.
Show threadSneedsFeednSeedAug 8, 2023
American here. What is this “slavery” you speak of?
Show threadbe_excellent_to_each_otherAug 8, 2023

American here. What is this “slavery” you speak of?

I didn't know either, so I consulted some textbooks from Florida. Turns out, it was a long-term internship program that the New World set up to help out the uncivilized savages from Africa.

As I understand it, it was a physically demanding program, and most of those who participated didn't make it to the end, but those who did gained life skills that would continue to impact not only them, but generations of their dependents.

Some, especially teachers in Florida who wish to keep their jobs, might say it was the very first Affirmative Action program. When you look at it that way, we should be proud of this part of our heritage.

Show threadcook_pass_babtridgeAug 8, 2023
I wish the UK would do the same. At least in the US they learn a bit about slavery - here in the UK we learn nothing about the British Empire and its atrocities. No wonder we have statues of slave traders everywhere.
Show threadnBodyProblemAug 8, 2023
I know there is regional variation on how the slave trade is taught, but when I was in school we had numerous, extended, and graphic discussions on the horrors of the slave trade starting from elementary school and extending into college.
Show threadzaphAug 8, 2023
Without doxxing yourself could you give an idea of where you went to school? I went to public school in the south and other than being mentioned I didn’t learn much about slavery in school. I mean we learned about the underground railroad and generally knew about the slave trade and that being a slave was about the worst thing humanly possible. But other than getting whipped they didn’t talk about much of the torture or punishments they’d went through. Civil rights I remember being discussed more in depth than slavery but when I was a kid I attributed it through the fact that most of my teachers remember the civil rights movement from when they were my age. Sorry I’m high so I’m rambling now.
Show threadnBodyProblemAug 9, 2023

I grew up in California

I’m not surprised about your experience though. I have also lived in the south and many of the southern states are still feeling the effects of decades of extensive lobbying on education by the Daughters of the Confederacy.

They DoC has historically pushed a narrative about slaves being happy and content overall, cared for by empathetic masters who valued their well-being. There are many monuments still standing glorifying the wartime deeds done by “loyal” and happy slaves. It’s really insidious.

Show threadGameyAug 7, 2023
That’s actually very missleading, like most involved companies they tried everything to hide it till the shitstorm got too big and the damage to their image was smaller that way so we shouldn’t give them any credit for that whatsoever!!!
Show threadgornarAug 7, 2023
Like IBM!
Show threadTheDoctorDonnaAug 7, 2023
Their current symbol looks like a painted over swastika, so I’m sure their future will continue be a painted over swastika.
Show threadnodimetotieAug 7, 2023
no, that’s just the Bavarian checkers, pretty common across Bavaria
Show threadmartyAug 8, 2023
Actually it resembles an aircraft propeller, because that’s what their engines were for.
Show threadwewbullAug 8, 2023
So does OPs picture. It’s a propeller, right?
Show threadℛ𝒶𝓋ℯ𝓃Aug 8, 2023
And a cross is a swastika without arms… your point?
Show threadtallwookieAug 7, 2023
better than IBM I guess
Show threadXusonthaAug 8, 2023
Just curious, what did they do?
Show threadDelphiaAug 8, 2023

They did what they were told and didnt argue.

Same as Hugo Boss made SS uniforms, a lot of german people and companies at the time just went along. Even if they didnt wholeheartedly swallow the propaganda, even if they quietly hated the Nazi regime, they saw those that spoke out beaten, killed or straight up vanish. Some of the companies willingly stuck their heads in the sand and just went along because they knew that to resist was to mark yourself, and to cooperate was to profit.

Show threadXusonthaAug 8, 2023
Oh I knew what BMW did, I was just asking about IBM
Show threadfabianAug 8, 2023

There is a book about it: IBM and the holocaust.

here is a summary, hopefully not paywalled.

IBM and the Holocaust

Show threadpastermilAug 8, 2023
Yeah that is some great info, but what does IBM has to do with Nazi?
Show threadDelphiaAug 8, 2023

Didnt realise you were asking specifically about IBM. IBM definitely knew they were doing something wrong.

Yeah,This article should give you a good outline.

IBM 'dealt directly with Holocaust organisers'

Newly discovered documents from Hitler's Germany prove that IBM directly supplied the Nazis with technology which was used to help transport millions of people to their deaths in the concentration camps.

The Guardian
Show threadPatapon EnjoyerAug 8, 2023
Hugo Boss, the guy, was a major nazi though. Active party member.
Show threadCustosliberaAug 8, 2023

Every single business in existence will sell out any value they say they hold for profit.

If they don’t another business will, welcome to capitalism.

Show threadnomadjoanneAug 8, 2023

I feel a little more sympathetic to them for the Nazi stuff than for any current shit they pull.

I have to wonder, had they said no, what the German state would have then done to them. Essentially any state can require a company to produce wartime goods.

Show threadChrobinAug 8, 2023
I know that. But we still need to support the companies that do shit we want, so it’s more profitable to do so.
Show threadtoygAug 8, 2023
TBF, Disney is not buckling under pressure from the Florida Nazi governor.
Show threadPatapon EnjoyerAug 8, 2023
They have a lot more to lose if they do.
Show threadCustosliberaAug 8, 2023

Disney don’t give a fuck about LBGTQIA+.

There’s just more profit in performative concern for that community.

Show threadpoopknifeAug 10, 2023
and then there is Austria…