WtfEvenIsExistence3️“We’re always here for you"
MonsieurHedgeI feel like this needs context.
The rule is probably in place so other people don‘t get triggered to contemplate suicide as well.
But there’s research to prove that’s not a thing. Copy-catting maybe, but you’ll never “give them the idea”. If they’re in that bad of a spot, they’re there already
-source: suicide prevention trainer, but not mental health professional
Could you provide a source for that research? I swear I’m not being combative, just genuinely interested.
Not the original commenter, but I know it's included in the yearly training for Army civilians and soldiers. We have to take suicide prevention training every year. I don't think the training itself sources the info though. Also I don't know if you can access the training without a CAC. In any case, they say that it is just a myth. You don't have to tiptoe around the idea of suicide. It's better to ask someone if they're thinking about it if you're truly worried that they are.
Thank you!
Also I don’t know if you can access the training without a CAC
Archive.org has a collection of titled “The Military Industrial PowerPoint Complex” that contains exactly what you’d think, a crapton of US Military PowerPoint files. I’m sure if you dig enough that specific training is out there, although in sure theres better places to find such infotmation too
SpeckleNot OP but here you go. I work with young people and have had suicide prevention training multiple times, this is a recurring mantra that not asking about it is much worse than asking.
Thanks. I wonder if this is limited to a therapeutic context and if the same is true for third party mentions of suicide. But I’ll look around for that by myself.
RoundcatThanks a lot for posting the study.
For me, personally, it's not because it triggers suicidal ideation - I agree with the research I've seen that suggests it's not a thing, or at least not a statistically significant thing.
For me, the issue is that people who say they're suicidal get attention and sympathy
For certain emotionally immature people, attention and sympathy is their #1 goal in life
In addition, teenagers want to both be cool and different, yet be accepted by everyone. You can't NOT accept a suicidal person, because what if they suicide themselves? If you say you're suicidal, suddenly everyone HAS to be nice to you.
All of this is to say that, no, all y'all dumb motherfuckers are not actually suicidal, you're just fucking sad, edgy, and boring, and you need to quit it because you're drowning out the actual struggling people.
Every damn day I see it "waaaaah I want to dieeeeeeee" no the fuck you don't, you're just trying to sound cool. Grow up.
Fair, but you have to REALLY know someone to pass that judgment and you can’t do that on internet comments
It's much more dangerous not to ask about suicide than to ask about it. The myth you're spreading is ridiculously dangerous and you should really stop. Just simply stating it as a matter of fact like you did is enough to keep perpetuating it. It's harmful and you should stop. You should even modify the comment as people are upvoting it and clearly believe it.
Most suicidal people just want to flirt with the idea a bit, it’s better to allow them to go through that process openly so they can recover faster. For those who are serious, it’s not clear that forcing them to stick around is better either IMO.
Better out then in!
Back on reddit I was active in a psychology sub with a “no self help questions” rule. This was in place because the mods said we have no way of any kind of quality control relating the answers you might get. This is the internet, and some jerk will probably feel empowered giving harmful advice or straight up advocating pro suicide to be extra edgy. There was, however, an automod providing actual self help hotlines and websites from basically all around the world. While I tend to agree that Lemmy wouldn’t be my platform of choice when it comes to actual mortal danger (like in the case of severe suicidal ideation) I feel like we could profit from something like that over here.
I like a good meme
Are… are you okay?
Man, I don’t even know anymore… Covid, War in Ukraine, Climate change, Upcoming 2024 Election, feels like too much has been going on. 2024 could mean the end of everything. (I’m a non-white immigrant so I’ll be the first ones to be targeted if the election doesn’t go well).
Elephant0991Hey, dude, I feel I somewhat understand you, because I was the same, and am the same. But here’s something I learned a while ago that helped (obviously didn’t kill it). It’s by now a cliche and is totally commercialized, but hey, if it works.
Habit 1: Be Proactive: Focus and act on what you can control and influence instead of what you can’t.
There are a lot of things you can’t control/have causal effects in life. You will kill yourself worrying about them. Drop the bad news you can’t change. If you already know who you are going to vote for; just don’t read the political news. Do you parts for the climate change and forget the rest. etc.
Live long and prosper.
Problem: the best way to decrease your carbon footprint is to not consume anything at all, which is only possible if you aren’t alive.
AFallingAnvil70% of all pollution is created by maybe 100 companies. Your “carbon footprint” is just a corporate ploy to shift responsibilities and the focus of the discussion around climate change to that of the individual.
Damn… Yeah, it‘s rough.
Life is never all butterflies and rainbows, but it‘s also easy to forget that there is also much potential for good things to happen as well: Indulging in new and old hobbies, the next night out with friends, some really good food, a day weekend trip to somewhere interesting and so much more. It‘s important to shift perspective from time to time. Keeping a journal for what you‘re grateful for/happy about is one technique to iron out that negativity bias a bit.
Note that this is not the be all and end all solution for keeping all depressing thoughts at bay. If it‘s still a problem, please seek professional help.
it‘s also easy to forget that there is also much potential for good things to happen as well: Indulging in new and old hobbies, the next night out with friends, some really good food, a weekend trip to somewhere interesting and so much more.
All of those things pale in comparison to the impending end of the world.
Hate to break it to you bud. The world isn’t ending. It’s going to still be here. Humanity is going to still be here. We’re going to survive the worst of it and continue going. It’ll get real hard but at no point are we looking at the end of the world or of humanity. The stuff that’ll be really bad won’t be any time soon. Probably not in your lifetime. You can go ahead and live your life and have fun.
The world isn’t ending.
As far as our civilization is concerned, it is. Global warming will cause desperate wars over rapidly dwindling resources like food and inhabitable land, and desperate people with a nuclear arsenal and nothing to lose will be intensely tempted to launch their nukes. Sooner or later, someone will, and then humanity as we know it will be gone. Only scattered groups of survivors and rich people in bunkers will remain after that.
It’ll get real hard
That’s quite an understatement…
The stuff that’ll be really bad won’t be any time soon. Probably not in your lifetime.
It was 115°F in Portland, Oregon a couple of years ago. That is an absurd, beyond-the-pale temperature for this part of the world. Global warming isn’t some distant threat for future generations to worry about; it’s here and now.
You can go ahead and live your life and have fun.
I’m already not having fun. Cost of living is skyrocketing. I’ll be lucky to still have a roof over my head in a few years. And that’s assuming global warming stops right now and doesn’t make the situation any worse, which is of course a blatantly unrealistic assumption.
No, they are just smaller in scope, as in they are more on a personal level. For me, I value that much more.
And not to discredit the concern (we should be), but doomerism has never amounted to anything.
DominusOfMegadeusAnd yet I’d be good if my electric bill wasn’t $350
Mine was the same. It’s amazing how much it costs to keep a small house at a livable temperature when it’s blazing hot outside
House? HOUSE!!! I’m in a 1 bedroom apartment!!!
There must be something really wrong then, like no insulation at all, or improper grounding. $350/mo for one bedroom apartment electric bill is insane.
Last time I was in a studio apartment it was like $70/mo. In a 3 bedroom house I’m in right now it’s around $120-150/mo currently.
10.9 cents supply, 16.9 cents delivery. A very old air conditioner running constantly during a 2 week heat wave.
Idk if it helps but a friend of mine has similar problems with depression because of the world going to shit. (Even though here problems aren’t so severe). I once showed her the Solarpunk genre/Movement and it worked (at least a bit). It let a bit of sunlight and hope in her heart and she has fallen directly in love with it in the same way I did. So maybe it helps a bit looking into it and get a bit of a hope boost.
LastBlock all news. Trump fucked me up well into 2021, and things didn’t get better until I stopped doomscrolling. You can’t affect how things are going to play out. You watching the news isn’t going to help anyone. We’ll all still be here when you get better, but it starts with taking a long brake from the news.
Can’t really say it’s not that bad so I’ll just say that I hope that your tomorrow is slightly better than your today. Also there are a lot of people that value you as a human and want you in their community. Fascists are just louder (and more dangerous). Sending you love.
Take heart. America, like all developed nations, can’t live without immigrants to counteract its declining birth rate. If you live in fear that all immigrants will be expunged, you can relax.
Meanwhile women have already been targeted and shot at and hit because one of the last elections didn’t go well. Gay and trans people are being erased from places like a Florida and Texas right now.
Turn that anxiety into volunteer hours registering voters, or helping women access critical healthcare.
Try to limit that kind of negative news to once a week. You’ll still be informed but things you can’t change won’t be so much at the center of your mind.
“We’re always here for you”
Well, they’re not wrong, they just do they best to make the “always” part very short.
The mods on lemmy.worls are something…
I guess we really are trying to recreate everything about reddit here.
Thanks for the gold kind stranger!
Mininux😂😂😂 (now downvote)
Some traditions are worth preserving
I don’t know why, but this made me feel all warm and fuzzy inside
Kerbr/thirdsub
Disgusted_TadpoleIf you’d told me the most upvoted comment on my profile would be about inserting my lebanese blind vegan hamster in my urethra while playing Country Roads on the kazoo with a sombrero, I wouldn’t have believed it!!!
Well we made Reddit in the first place. Spez just came along and decided to wreck it.
Oh my god, this place is full of...Redditors!
Isn’t Lemmy supposed to be better than Reddit? Or we just going to start figuring out the actual issue with Reddit was the retarded moderators?
The moderators certainly were removed
Mods will be mods.
I mean, Lemmy has the exact same potential for issues with admins and mods - the key difference being that if those issues happen you can just up and off to another instance without having to abandon Lemmy altogether.
That’s very true, you can just create a new community in a new instance.
More importantly, you could have an instance that’s specifically tailored to a purpose. Like a mental health non profit could create an instance with expert guidance and instance wide rules for mental health communities.
Tony SmehrikThey won’t, but nice dream you got there.
AppoxoOP said could for a reason.
The difference is that instances have self determination. On Reddit all subreddits have to operate under the umbrella of Reddit whether it’s good for them or not. Here communities can go to an instance they’re aligned with. For example there’s a very popular German instance that has all the topics in German for a German audience. In the case of mental health, the ideal situation is thata non profit with expert guidance could create their own instance with communities lead by people who actually know what they’re doing. On Reddit there’s only one sub that can have a name whereas on lemmy you could have a bunch of mental health communities under someinstitute.org or something.
rabYeah I noticed this immediately. I think the mods here are on average worse than reddit even
1984Start a new community on another instance. This is the power of the fediverse.
I don’t have time to moderate a community or I would