Pence confirms he took notes on Trump about overturning election
Former Vice President Mike Pence has confirmed that he took notes on his conversations with former President Trump leading up to the Jan. 6 riot, as Trump repeatedly pressured him to reject the results of the 2020 election during the certification in Congress.
Its complicated, because he did stop it. He also immediately took notes and immediately told others about the conversations, actions which clearly paint him as somebody fully versed in the processes of establishing cooperation with law enforcement on an informer basis.
It is also arguable that the entire insurrection that day was a cover to specifically murder Mike Pence on the Capitol steps. There was day of chatter that the gallow was brought into the city in one of the vehicles in Alex Jones’ caravan. We know that with the charging of Donald Trump, Alex Jones is now essentially the only conspirator of Jan. 6 who remains charge free.
Whatever we think of Mike Pence, our country still existing might have solely rested in his hands and it appears he did the right thing in the way he knew how. He saved his life. He saved his family’s life. He saved his country.
I find the idea of giving Pence one iota of credit for any of that to be profane in the extreme, but if it turns out to be true… ugh… I suppose I would have to.
still, gross. he’s such a terrible person.
Two quotes:
"But let me say on this issue, if we got to know each other, you'd know the Pences love everybody," Pence continued. "We treat everybody the way we want to be treated. But on this issue, and it's frankly something that when the Obergefell decision was made which legalized same-sex marriage in America, the Supreme Court, Justice Kennedy wrote at the end, that this decision will likely create an intersection and tension between people in same-sex relationships and people in the exercise of their religious liberty."
"Look, I believe marriage is between a man and a woman, I believe in traditional marriage, and I believe marriage was ordained by God and instituted in the law, but we live in a pluralistic society, and the way we go forward, and the way we come together as a country united, I believe, is when we respect: Your right to believe and my right to believe what we believe," Pence said.
There's not exactly a specific law because it was decided by the Supreme Court. He'd most certainly support a law in Congress to overturn the Supreme Court decision though.
Your summary is certainly not about removing LBTG rights, it's saying he agrees with the institutions of the United States. I find it interesting however that that's how you'd choose to summarize the quotes.
The part about removing LGBT rights is where he's saying that law is / should be god's will implemented and that god's will is marriage being purely between a man and a woman. He can say he loves all equally, but he shows that's not true when he classifies some people's marriages as being unworthy of legal recognition.
In case you're unaware, you're coming off as deliberately combative and unwilling to do even a modicum of research yourself while insisting that total strangers do all the work for you and spoon-feed you every bit of information you want.
That makes it seem like you're not actually interested in learning anything, and instead are simply looking for a fight. I wouldn't dare speculate on whether or not that's actually the case or not, but that is why you're being downvoted.
Oh, sorry, I just don’t like using headlines as my main source of information
Like which ones? I’m not American and I don’t have to inform myself of all the laws that were passed 2016-2020 in a country that isn’t mine
What laws specifically?
So you’re not interested in reading articles but ARE perfectly ok with harassing a comment section to get your pointless and banal question answered that could have been done with 5 seconds of google.
Balance that ball, Mr. Sealion.
In all the time and with all the keystrokes that you typed this chain, you could have googled “Mike pence, marriage equality”.
Go eat some fish
I don’t need to, I’m familiar with the topic.
I’m here to call out aquatic mammals
So to summarize, you’re whining about people not informing you about how things work in America- a country you don’t live in, but think somehow you’re entitled to have everyone explain shit that doesn’t even involve you?
That’s embarrassing for you.
There’s world news communities and country-specific communities if you’re not too lazy to find them. Or you can whine like a little child and call people names if that makes you fee better.
Either way, thanks for the laugh, whatever your country’s equivalent of Karen is.
Legislative policy based on a certain religion is violent fascism. And anyone who holds office and uses their religion to enact legislation is absolutely an anti American POS, incompatible with modern civilization, no better than the worst terrorist. And they should not be tolerated in any manner that allows them to hold political power. And anyone who votes for such a candidate is no better than them.
Fuck these religious right wing fuckers. They’re all part of a doomsday death cult.
“Look, I believe marriage is between a man and a woman, I believe in traditional marriage, and I believe marriage was ordained by God and instituted in the law, but we live in a pluralistic society, and the way we go forward, and the way we come together as a country united, I believe, is when we respect: Your right to believe and my right to believe what we believe,” Pence said.
at least he respects democracy.
bigotry and hate ae not compatible with democracy, a cornerstone of which is equality
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