electriccarsAs an OG Reddit Sync user of over 10 years, all this arguing really brings a tear to my eye. š„²
As a software engineer I find it miraculous the amount of people that whine about somebody wanting to get paid for putting weeks, months, and years of their life into a product 100s of thousands of people CHOOSE to use.
I think itās time to create a lemmy version of r/subredditdrama!!!
So proud to be present and involved in histories first lemmy app war. Iāll be telling my grandchildren about this some day.
VictronDonāt forget the legend of the un-pooper and the beans can craze.
I miss the beans
ā¦Those were the days
Spliffman1The no poop challenge is legendary
Drama in the Fediverse - Lemmy.world
defederate? donāt defederate? that is the question. is an instance owned by the Wrong Type of Peopleā¢? are the admins insane, or are the users dangerous? what does the modlog say? Rules: 1. Follow lemmy.worldās rules 2. No bigotry. That includes racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, etc. 3. Keep the drama focused on Lemmy and/or the fediverse only. If itās Kbin or Mastodon drama, it must be a quality effortpost. 4. Donāt piss on the popcorn. Inciting brigades is an automatic ban. 5. We reserve the right to enforce the rules however we like.
Have been using the Reddit app daily for years after paying a couple of quid to remove ads whenever I did that. Felt like a steal then and expensive now so, on balance, Iām comfortable having paid the ad randsome. I feel better knowing it all goes to the developer for his personal efforts.
Paying is fine, itās the SHIT TON OF THIRD PARTY TRACKERS they put in the app that worry me
They get completely disabled if you pay, thatās the point. I havenāt got a single tracking ping on my PiHole, I payed for adfree.
My trust was already broken. These lemmy instances come free of charge, free of ads and free of trackers, and this pig of a dev comes around and pulls out an Ć la spez shenanigan and everyone praises him. He should be keelhauled. And the lemmy servers should block apps that insert ads unless they share profits. Iād be happy to pay for features that add to lemmy, not for features that were taken away. Fuck sync for lemmy
Feel better now?
A lot better
I mean your name is ācodemasterā where is your free to use lemmy app ? or do you expect to be paid for your coding efforts?
Let me just bunch up some third party trackers and ads in a pretty UI and ask you for money real quick
Iāll be waiting, letās see if you measure to Sync.
Go ahead then, weāre waitingā¦
Freeloader. Enjoy your free stuff off the backs of people doing all the work and paying all the bills.
Freeloading, hmm?
When was the last time you made a unprompted decision to donate to the Lemmy devs?
Iām confused. Are you suggesting a better way to monetize non-paying users or are you saying that the dev should make the app free for everyone to use without ads?
He should not add anti-features where there are none and then ask for money to remove them. Thatās just being an asshole. He should ask for money for good features that lemmy lacks, not turn Lemmy into Reddit
āAnti-featuresā = 1 very obvious ad every time I load a new page.
You need some perspective lmao
If they demand payment for third party dev they wouldnāt be free open source anymore, your argument is asinine. If you donāt want to use a paid app then donāt, stop acting like someone else doing it is in some way hurting you personally.
Not getting into this argument because I personally donāt give a shit about the whole situation, but that isnāt really how FOSS works.
The software itself is free, the servers themselves are a service however. That is not free, it may be free to US, but somebody is footing the bill.
That being said, if the sync developer is developing an app for a platform that itself does not use ads and relies solely on donation, ethically speaking he should at least donate some of the profit to the Lemmy devs (even if just 1%), considering that the app DOES rely on their software and they themselves are not seeing any of those funds whatsoever. I have no problem with donations whatsoever, but keep in mind that it isnāt like sync is the greatest creation ever made and is totally self reliant, it 100% depends on Lemmy itself to function.
Whether he does or not doesnāt matter to me because jerboa works perfectly fine for me, but that is just my .02. People are really getting way too fucking heated about this shit and seeing it start to infect spaces like shitpost is honestly turning me off to Lemmy.
People are treating the app like the second coming of Christ FFS.
It is.
Correct, the use of the service at the moment is free the fee l third party creators are charging for their service in development of that particular interface. Theyāre free to do that.
Who says he doesnāt? You legit donāt know what deal they may or may not have, stop assuming.
Bro itās shit postā¦ What standards are you holding it to here lol.
No people are overdueing a joke as always on shit post and as usual people hop in and get way too serious about throwaway jokes.
If he is donating, then he should tell people that he is donating. The whole idea of āif you tell people of your goodwill then you undid your goodwillā is stupid. Yes, you shouldnāt do something good with the expectation of a reward, but thatās different when you are selling a product.
Itās not even just about goodwill, it is also about longevity of the platform.
However, considering the facts that he is running ads and charging for ad-free access, I doubt he is donating by default unless he specifically mentions it.
Also, Iām not holding any standard here, itās just that like, shitpost is for actual shitposts. This isnāt a shitpost, itās just starting another argument. Itās like the porn spam in /b/, there are other boards for that.
Itās also not just here, Iām seeing boards everywhere popping up with this argument. It is getting old.
I meanā¦ I personally do consider it the second coming of Christ š¤·
More fanatical than arch users, thatās coming from one himself.
What if youāre both a fanatical sync user and an arch user?
Because thatās me š
Iād say Iām still a fanatical arch (more Linux in general) user but Iāve learned to tone it down when it comes to trying to convert other people to using it.
Iāve found the āsowing the seedsā approach to be better to converting people to the Linux master race.
Yeah, how come some nefarious people charge for a calendar app, if days are free!!?oneTurd D:<.
/S
Your irrationally emotional and crazed sounding response will actually encourage more people to use Sync, thanks bro
Blargoroni! Whatever you do, donāt eat rotten vegetables, itāll make you sick!!! Booga booga booga! Iām ca_raaaazy_!
(Does this make you want to eat rotten veggies?)
Your brain appears to be a rotten vegetable š
This makes me want to eat brains
Lemmy needs more drama. When all is perfect itās too bland.
To live life you need problems
Actually maybe you have a point there you idiot lol
And ākeelhauledā, really? You are advocating violence and criticising somebody for doing an app that people can choose to get or not. Itās hard, no impossible, to take you seriously
How do I give more money than I already have to this pig of a dev who made the Lemmy experience so great to me and countless others such that it is now in the top 10 social apps on the Play store?
Waitā¦ you pay for sync not to spy on you?
I hope boost doesnāt go the same way.
bluejayI paid for Sync to toss some money to a dev responsible for the #1 used app on any of my phones for the last 10 years. I paid a criminally low amount back then for how much I used the app.
It happened to also come with ad removal, but I block those and trackers on my network anyway.
Sync is no spying no shit, google ads spy as much as they do in any other site or app you use
Not Sync, itās AdMob and Google.
Dawg, I have Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, and a phone OS owned by Googleā¦ If sync spying on me is the worst part then Iām doing pretty good.
I pay 2 bucks a month to show the dev I appreciate his hard work.
If you own a Pixel you could always use GrapheneOS! Itās been wonderful on mine!
Graphene on my Fairphone is pretty great. I do use Sync though because itās great š
No NFC payments, sadly š
Let me get this right - youāre worried about tracking it use an Android phone?
Iām running a custom ROM. Go back to your ecoshitstem apple fanboy
Thatās where Iām at. Donāt care that itās not FOSS or the Dev charges. I just wouldnāt support an app that puts trackers and ads on a product that inherently doesnāt. Putting it behind a paywall wouldnāt bother me a bit.
That said, thatās why I donāt use it nor support it but donāt give a shit if someone else does.
So many FOSS evangelists sound more like āWhat do you mean making a website costs more than $20?ā types than they realize.
Same. Iām very grateful for the FOSS options, theyāre like a public option. They create a baseline that paid apps have to surpass, but thereās nothing wrong with devs getting paid for their work and that payment shouldnāt have to be at the whims of donations. I view it as more choice and more choice is good. This is a small dev on an open platform that canāt lock out FOSS options. Itās not a mega corp building a monopoly. Sync is not hurting anyone by being a paid option.
Itās not a mega corp building a monopoly. Sync is not hurting anyone by being a paid option.
Wouldnāt they see this as a dev trying to make some fortune over non-profit service?
Not sure though if the dev already automatically donates a portion of his sells to lemmy.
Wouldnāt they see this as a dev trying to make some fortune over non-profit service?
On the other hand, Iād like to see how the donations to non-profits are being utilized. At least with for-profit we know whatās what.
The way i look at is if you give me a good app(sync) with good functionality and a nice ui I donāt mind seeing adās or throwing some money the devs way.
My big issue with the reddit app was there was no equivalent exchange going on i had a shitty app with awful ui that was buggy slow showed me adds and tracked my data I didnāt get anything from that so I had to stop.