I've just got to say how happy I am with the Mastodon community, especially all the science/space people that I'm following. This place is the clear winner after the social media meltdown, despite its outstanding issues and missing features.

What makes me even more excited is that it's open and unmonetized, so it's completely immune to shareholder demands or the whim of a billionaire.

Don't worry if your friends aren't here yet, we're your new friends.

#mastodon

@fraser

do note that while it's not subject to whims of "a billionaire", it's now subject to the whims of a few hundred neurodivergent server administrators which means some or all of your data and connections can still vanish in thin air with no warning, for any touchy reason, and frequently does, unless you're hosting your own, which comes with its own problems...

@evolbug Yeah, I'm hosting my own server, so I'm immune to that. If there was a way to make it much easier to host your own server, that would be a great improvement. I could suggest thousands of improvements, but that's not my point. I'll still take individual admins over a billionaire ruled by shareholders.

@fraser

there's masto.host and also digitalocean offers an "almost one-click" setup, but yeah. in my eyes it's a dilemma, while theoretically individuals are better than billionaire shareholders, in practice i've seen dozens of those individuals go out of commission permanently, taking thousands to hundreds of thousands of users with them, because behind the scenes mastodon is a really rough place to manage. and while self hosting protects you against that somewhat, your reach becomes minimal

@fraser of course currently it has far higher signal than the alternatives which is very nice, but it's best described as tribal anarchy right now. Your friends may come and stay here, but then one day vanish. Question is, how many times can they take vanishing before they go back to the billionaire platform that is always up, even though it's worse when it comes to the actual signal part.
@fraser i've been using mastodon since beginning of 2018, before the whole twitter shtick, and seen contant infighting. first on mastodon.social and then decided to host my own, because the largest art instance decided to silence the one where, well, pretty much everyone else is (.social), so nobody there could talk to the artists anymore. Having moved to my own, with my modest followlist the difference between how much conversation i used to have and now do is day and night. gain some lose some

@fraser yknow we also do have precedent of corporate takeover for federated services, it's... email!

it used to be that most people had their own email address in any random place, very often their ISP provided one. nowadays you're pretty much stuck with google or microsoft, and a few others who managed to carve out a slice through great effort. Problem is, if you self host mail, if you don't get blessed, nobody will accept your mail even if you fulfill all the dozen requirements.

@evolbug There was a fantastic essay I once read about the phases communities go through, with initial enthusiasm leading to moderator burnout, leading to politics. It's inevitable. So your experience is inevitable, and your solution to set up your own server was the right one.
@evolbug Hah, no idea. It'll take as long as it takes. Either the technology improves to the point that it's effortless to move to and remain in Mastodon or the billionaires figure out a business model that doesn't depend on violating our privacy and manipulating our emotions.