abbyAug 3, 2023

When my partner first told me the Oppenheimer movie didn't talk about this AT ALL, I immediately lost whatever little interest I had. Gross to make so much money off of them, yet not even mention the victims. 35 infants died the month after the test bomb alone.

Idk, call me a buzzkill or whatever but I don't think there's enough special effects in the world to make me feel less gross about this. I really thought part of the movie would be him facing the reality of what he created tbh.

Show threadCharlie StrossAug 3, 2023

@vapaad @Illuminatus Just noting that to pick up enough radiation to kill you within a month typically takes a prompt radiation dose of over 1 Gray, the sort of level you'd get from being at ground zero of an H-bomb but shielded from blast/heat effects.

Meanwhile, infant deaths in 1945 ran at levels that are frankly inconceivable today, especially in poor rural areas: limited neonatal care, no vaccines against childhood diseases, no antibiotics.

(Leukaemia over 70 years OTOH is more credible.)

Show threadL'égrégore André ꕭꕬAug 4, 2023
@cstross @vapaad @Illuminatus How are you so sure the infant deaths in no way were caused either directly by the fallout or indirectly by parents getting (temporarily) ill due to fallout?
The dosage you're referring to, is it för infants or adults? Just stating "infant mortality was really really high back then" without comparing the numbers for the actual area really isn't the gotcha you think it is.
Simply put: you're dismissing a statement not by proving it wrong, but by being a reply guy.
Show threadCharlie StrossAug 4, 2023
@Mabande @vapaad @Illuminatus Go read up on the Trinity test. Hint: by bomb standards it was SMALL, and conducted in the middle of the Jornada del Muerto desert. The only habitation at the site was a ranch house—used for bomb assembly—and a temporary encampment for Manhattan Project personnel. They picked the site SPECIFICALLY because it was very remote from witnesses.
Show threadL'égrégore André ꕭꕬ
@cstross @vapaad @Illuminatus Charlie, Chucko, Strosseroni, my brother in replies: even if you're right we have no way of knowing, cause you came into someone's mentions (on a sensitive topic) dismissing what they say without anything else than what amounts to "cause I say so, just Google it".
Shape up or get out.
Aug 4, 2023 at 9:11amWeb