HunterBidensLapDogDumb Trump supporters shoot America in the foot
UnknownQuantityBe fair OP. America became a laughing stock the moment Trump was elected.
DeceptichumMate, we’ve been laughing at you for decades.
At least Trump only really hurt America, unlike the third world countries everyone one of your presidents bombs and murders.
Most of us don’t like Trump, most of us don’t like the bombings in other countries, most of us didn’t want to be in Vietnam, most of us isn’t didn’t want us to be in Iraq.
I don’t look at every person in the UK and assume you all love the Monarchy and love the current and past two morons you have had running the place. I mean fuck Rishi Sunak, Liz Truss, and Boris Johnson and Brexit? Shit isn’t lookin great over that way either but I don’t assume it’s because every single citizen of the UK wanted it that way. Quit looking at America like one big collective individual and take a moment to realize that the fuckin system here is rigged to shit from years of political fuckery. We are stuck with a two party system and the past two presidents who did the most damage to our foreign relations and our political system didn’t even win the fucking popular vote.
Oh and if I incorrectly assumed you nationality just fill in the appropriate bullshit that is probably happening in your current country.
Sincerely,
One of the majority of Americans that don’t like what is happening in this country either
P.S. Go eat a bag of rancid donkey dicks ya ignorant fuck.
asapmost of us didn’t want to be in Vietnam, most of us isn’t didn’t want us to be in Iraq.
Poor @[email protected] is getting massively downvoted, but these particular claims are easily disproven.
It doesn’t matter that public support shifted later - of course people feel bad about doing something bad after the fact. But at the time, most Americans did want you to be in Vietnam and most Americans did want you to be in Iraq.
We don’t make the decision to go to war the government does that without our input. The public supported for the war in Iraq after the government decided to go to war then spread propaganda saying that Iraq was related to 9/11. Those are graphs of how effective propaganda was on those polled after the government made a decision to go to war… we don’t vote on that shit.
It doesn’t matter that public support shifted later - of course people feel bad about doing something bad after the fact.
That is the propaganda losing the battle. People found out that the person (supposedly) responsible for 9/11 was in Afghanistan and had nothing to do with Iraq.
Vietnam was the same but it took longer for the general public to find out the truth. The government decides to go to war and spreads propaganda everywhere about why we needed to go to Vietnam. Propaganda weakens as real information about the war spreads then people no longer support the war.
Americans are not just inherently warmongering people I don’t think any citizens of any country are…unless their government has a super effective propaganda machine constantly brain fucking them into being that way (see Russia).
I’m sure that the people in your social circle do disagree with those wars and do disagree with some of the more recent things which have happened, but you need to understand that sometimes the majority does sadly support some very bad things
My social circles? I live in the Midwest there are people in my neighborhood with flags up that say “Fuck Biden Don’t blame me I Voted for Trump” in their front yards here. I have seen the worst of Americans and they are not the majority even here. There are some dumb fuck gravy seals that cosplay as soldiers and act like war is a solution to anything and everything but most of the people here who support Trump and have that “America first” mindset are just well meaning morons that fell prey to propaganda.
I am well aware that propaganda works champ the idea that there are brief periods of support for such things somehow cancels that the majority of the time the majority of everyone doesn’t support such things is moronic.
First:
most of us didn’t want us to be in Iraq.
Then:
The public supported for the war in Iraq
I mean you do hear yourself, right?
Nice cherry pickin champ. You are a moron.
There should not be any period where the majority of Americans thought invading Iraq was a good idea. This part is what the problem is.
I notice you didn’t actually respond to my point, and then you got angry and started calling names.
It doesn’t matter that public support shifted later - of course people feel bad about doing something bad after the fact. But at the time, most Americans did want you to be in Vietnam and most Americans did want you to be in Iraq.
You are treating Americans as a monolith. We don’t make the decision to go to war our government does then spews propaganda in the media and it can shift public opinion.
You posted two graphs with no sources and claimed that my statements were disproved when I never said “Americans never support war ever and if you can find a single instance of it happening for any period of time then everything I have said is wrong.”
I called you a moron because you cherry picked information from my statement then acted like it was self canceling.
There should not be any period where the majority of Americans thought invading Iraq was a good idea. This part is what the problem is.
What the fuck are you quoting? You never said that in your original comment.
Well now you are a moron for cherry picking and a moron for editing comments after replies.
Thankfully Lemmy has timestamps. My comment was edited 5 minutes before yours was made, not after:
You seem to have a large chip on your shoulder and I’m not sure why. I haven’t said anything insulting to you, and yet the stream of vitriol continues.
You are treating Americans as a monolith.
I am not. The only thing I’ve done is respond to your claim that “most of us didn’t want to be in Vietnam, most of us isn’t didn’t want us to be in Iraq”, and let you know that it’s not factually correct. Most Americans did support both of those wars at the start.