If the grown-ups are having a conversation that mentions racism and you feel a need to step in with "can we stop pretending that words have power," just save that for later bro. You take that right back to the Discord. We don't deserve your deep thoughts around here.

@Popehat

The versions of this practice that I disdain are "What is 'racism' after all?" then they divert the thread into hair splitting over definitions.

@Npars01 @Popehat I often sense that people who take straightforward conversations about social issues onto divisive tangents are just Trump supporters being a buzzkill.

@JMaverickJacks1 @Popehat

It happens often enough to appear deliberate, even inauthentic at times.

It's even been categorized into a classification system called "Types of Reply Guys" by @sbarolo

https://mashable.com/article/twitter-reply-guys

Some of the participants are part of web scraping firms that can collect the social media posts of individuals going back decades.

The Reply Guy interactions have been successful in reducing the number of online women gamers & the public presence of journalists...

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The curse of the Twitter reply guy

The dudes who reply to women's tweets with frightening regularity.

Mashable

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... & scientists.

A phenomenon that gets women to reduce their public participation is incredibly useful as a business model, to whom?

Jane Mayer & Jessica Valenti reduced their public presence when reporting on issues that upset GOP oil donors for example.

The reports on Belandre aka "James Bell" show disturbing practices.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/m7gq8a/james-bell-cyberstalking-harassment-catfishing

During the period leading up to the world wars, hostile foreign governments established newspaper clipping services as part of...
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These Women Say One Man Terrorized Them Online for Years. Then, They Decided to Band Together.

Harassed across the internet for more than a decade, a group of women found each other—and their alleged tormentor.

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... their espionage and manipulation of public opinion.

I wonder if such web scraping businesses serve a similar function?

Creating a wealth of data with potential future usefulness.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_monitoring_service

https://theintercept.com/2016/05/16/what-its-like-to-read-the-nsas-newspaper-for-spies/

Media monitoring service - Wikipedia

@Npars01 Thanks for those insights and links! I’m currently working on a journalism project in which some of that info will be directly useful! (To @Alan: Please take note of links in thread above regarding reporters during world wars and other media monitoring.) The profiles of annoying ‘Reply Guys’ is also priceless info, and greatly appreciated.😃❤️
@Npars01 @Alan Ms. Nicole, do you have any additional sources for your comment on media monitoring before/during the world wars?

@JMaverickJacks1 @Alan

I just googled "newspaper clipping".

What triggered my curiosity was Rachel Maddow's Ultra podcast about German newspaper clipping services.

It's also from "A Tree Grows in Brooklyn"

https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/why-mark-zuckerberg-should-read-a-tree-grows-in-brooklyn

There are several companies that do this for brand recognition. There's nothing stopping the same technology from being used in malign influence campaigns or espionage.
https://blog.hootsuite.com/social-media-monitoring-tools/

Why Mark Zuckerberg Should Read “A Tree Grows in Brooklyn”

Amy Davidson Sorkin writes that the spy story embedded in “A Tree Grows in Brooklyn” contains some provocative propositions for businesses, like Facebook, that collect and sell other people’s information.

The New Yorker

@JMaverickJacks1 @Alan

Another element to media monitoring services.

I've been wondering about the directed flows of money that brought us people like Brett Kavanagh, Clarence Thomas, John Eastman, Jeffrey Clark, Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, Amy Coney-Barrett, and Stephen Miller.

What mechanisms accelerated their careers, over all others?

These aren't particularly bright people or hard working. They lack charisma or presence. From relatively average families. So why?

They all have one...
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@Npars01 @Alan Musk only comes from an “average” family that stole an emerald mine that rightfully belongs to the black people of South Africa: a mine that gave him millions of dollars to invest in electric-vehicle technology that other people created so that he could take credit for it as a “genius,” and could make money from government grants, but could block the tech from reaching a mass market and from hampering oil execs. That was a Republican “catch-and-kill” operation!
@Npars01 @Alan Musk doesn’t want electric cars to be affordable enough to stop global warming. He wants you to think:
(1) slavery to Big Oil is inevitable, and
(2) saving Earth is unreasonable.
#MuskBorg #ResistanceIsNotFutile
@JMaverickJacks1 @Npars01 @Alan I think you're giving too much credit to electric car trump; he's not smart enough to make a clever plan (the hellsite is ample evidence of that!)
@orc @Npars01 @Alan Bigots love to push the lie that their anti-intellectual leaders “aren’t clever enough” to do X. Former U.S. presidents Donald Trump and George W. Bush supposedly weren’t “clever enough” to commit criminal conspiracies, yet evidence of those conspiracies is abundant. So, criminal conspiracies don’t require cleverness; they require criminals cooperating on a shared goal. Musk’s conduct suggests that he shares goals of criminals at Big Oil.

@JMaverickJacks1 @Npars01 @Alan "Not being clever enough to do X" isn't the same as not being smart enough to make a clever plan. The (cliche?) Peter principle applies to these self-proclaimed supergeniuses; with enough money, they can sail their depleted uranium boats for a while, and by g-d they'll do it instead of thinking it over and trying a different approach. Tesla lasted a long time with a Fisher-Price My First Executive Suite playhouse for electric car trump, but by the time he bought the hellsite he'd decided that whatever successes Tesla & Space-? had were because of his supreme intellect, and, well, you can see what happened.

(In the case of Tesla, electric car trump wants everybody in a car, but one of his cars, and if the underclass can't afford it they can walk. His attempt to kill mass transit with that stupid vacuum tube gadgetbahn is an example of his smarts.)

So, yeah, I don't think he's clever enough to be more than evil.

@orc @Npars01 @Alan All rich, evil “geniuses” are “smart” enough to get another rich, evil person to cooperate with any scheme that will make them both money by enslaving poorer people.

@JMaverickJacks1 @Npars01 @Alan And poor people as well. A lot of people like a man on a horse, and most wealthy parasites fit that category. It's not very smart; the leopard-eating-faces-party will inevitably do it to them (ie: Peter Thiel agitating against diversity) but they've gotta follow daddy.

If they're fortunate, they'll eat a bullet before the mobs break down that door (the one good thing Hitler did was to kill Hitler) but I fully expect each and every one of them to be dragged out of their escape estates and hung by their bodyguards.

You can call this being a genius, but I'm afraid I'll have to differ with you on this.