assassin_aragornJul 31, 2023

Don't overstate 1.5 degrees C threat, new IPCC head says

https://lemmy.world/post/2421583

Don't overstate 1.5 degrees C threat, new IPCC head says - Lemmy.world

In short, we aren’t on track to an apocalyptic extinction, and the new head is concerned that rhetoric that we are is making people apathetic and paralyzes them from making beneficial actions. He makes it clear too that this doesn’t mean things are perfectly fine. The world is becoming and will be more dangerous with respect to climate. We’re going to still have serious problems to deal with. The problems just aren’t insurmountable and extinction level.

Show threadHWK_290Jul 31, 2023

Well by all means, let’s make it seem less serious than it is! That’ll get people moving

Signed, an actual fucking climate scientist

Show threadbob_wileyJul 31, 2023
He’s not wrong. If people think they’re already doomed and mass extinction is just a matter of time, what’s their motivation to change?
Show threadCMLVIJul 31, 2023
The exact same thinking can be applied to the other side though. Guy says it's not an imminent threat, so we don't have to do anything right now. Worry about it next year. Which is arguably what's been happening for a long time now
Show threadAnonTwoJul 31, 2023

Well, do you want companies to spin "Eh not a big threat right?" or "Look at these crazy guys"

I think it's harder to win attention if people think you're wearing tinfoil.

Show threadCMLVIJul 31, 2023

I'd prefer to stop trying to win over unwinnable people. Whether they join or not, the problem exists. Climate change doesn't care that we may want to placate the more dense-skulled in society. The problem marches on whether they have changed sides or not.

The science is in, has been in, and continues to be in.

Show threadTimwiJul 31, 2023

I don't think there is such a thing as “unwinnable people”. They're unwinnable from a single conversation with a single person, sure. But they're not unwinnable if the currently ongoing concerted effort by climate-denying mass media were instead directed towards delivering climate science.

Tldr: the problem isn't the people who are brainwashed, the problem is the people doing the brainwashing.

Show threadAA5B

I keep trying to remember how we won the great lightbulb war, as a possible parallel. There were so many people getting so emotional about more efficient lighting, there was culture war, there were people vowing to hoard cases of incandescent lightbulbs, there were actually people threatening to take up arms against anyone restricting their right to “traditional” lightbulbs. It really sounded about the same as those refusing to help fight climate change. Then the war was over, LEDs are expected now, but I don’t know how. It seemed to fade away.

Maybe it was improving prices and technology, or maybe it was just familiarity once the newer technology reached some critical threshold of adoption, I don’t know. I was hoping to pull a lesson from it but I have nothing

Aug 2, 2023 at 3:24amWeb