"They need us. We don't need them:" The fall of Twitter is making the trolls and grifters desperate

https://lemmy.world/post/2465657

"They need us. We don't need them:" The fall of Twitter is making the trolls and grifters desperate - Lemmy.world

Does anyone know where the normal people are going though? I suspect Mastodon and Tildes but I could be corrected.

All this, Ryan said, explains why the trolls “are getting more extreme and desperate.” The pool of people available to get attention from is shrinking, so the only way to keep the engagement rates as high is to say wilder and nastier things. But eventually, there will be so few people on Twitter left to aggravate that even white nationalist dogwhistling and Holocaust denialism won’t work.

Mastodon would be my personal preference, but Bluesky seems pretty noisy to me, which seems like what people want from microblogging sites (I’m more of a reddit/lemmy/kbin style person, myself.) The question is whether Bluesky pulls a Google+ and stays invite-only for so long that they miss their own hype train.
So you tried it? I haven’t known anyone that tried it. A journalist said that the existing users are rude about newbies because they want it to themselves but I’ve seen a lot of bad reporting about Lemmy. Did you find it cranky about new users?

existing users are rude about newbies because they want it to themselves

Huh. The irony, considering that this is basically what people who jumped to BlueSky said about Mastodon.

They weren't strictly wrong about entrenched Mastodon users, but turning around to pull a reverse-Uno card about the whole thing is entertaining to me.

It was because most instances were invite only. It wasn’t because they weren’t wanted, but because most instances are humble small servers paid or run by individuals. Unlike the massive data centers that most social media companies have at their disposal. Only a few instances had the capacity to receive the waves of massive exodus. The limitation was technical, not ideological. Guess they took it personal and confused why something was being done.

No, there was a lot of pushback against new users coming in and "acting like it's Twitter". General interest instances grew, people, for the most part, operated within the rules of the instances they were on, and a bunch of the old guard got on peoples cases over things like content warnings, language policing, and threats to defederate their small, niche instance that no one was going to miss from big and growing servers (which, when you have absolutely no idea about the lay of the land, sounds really threatening and consequential).

People who were used to having almost the whole yard as their own tailored safe space did what they could to try and make the new folks get in line and adhere to the social conventions they were accustomed to, attempting to hold sway over behaviour on servers they didn't really want around anyway. It made the space hostile for new folks coming in.

And it was meant to.