@auonsson @VikingChieftain @chowderman @Loukas It seems possible. My view is that Ukraine was expecting to continue exporting grain, and that they are working with partners like Turkey on ways to break the Russian influence on maritime traffic. Will be interesting to see where these ships go.

@auonsson @anderspuck @VikingChieftain @chowderman so I guess now the next test is whether these ships are allowed to leave.

@chowderman @auonsson @anderspuck @VikingChieftain sorry, that's already too much credence for me ;) I see the movement on the Black Sea purely as a test of the capabilities and will of the Russian political and military elite. So far they show no will, but they have a chance to do so again, which will give us new data points.

@Loukas @chowderman @auonsson @VikingChieftain Judging by previous actions, the most dangerous place seems to be inside the harbor.

@anderspuck @Loukas @chowderman @VikingChieftain In relation to that we have the fact that NATO has been flying AWACS the last days in area. Hopefully the start of an end to airborne threats.

@auonsson @anderspuck @chowderman @VikingChieftain I was listening to Romeo Kokriatski and Anthony Bartaway's pod today, Ukraine without hype. They are both journalists in Ukraine and I trust them. They said one of the routes, to the Danube port of Ismail, can be navigated entirely within Nato waters. Is that the route these Turkish ships took? Ismail can't handle as much grain, but maybe it's a safer route?