Georgia Guidestones - Huge granite stones inscribed with words of advice that the author intended to “guide humanity forward”, destroyed in 2022

https://lemmy.world/post/2419361

Georgia Guidestones - Huge granite stones inscribed with words of advice that the author intended to “guide humanity forward”, destroyed in 2022 - Lemmy.world

They didn’t seem terribly useful, compared to other long projects.

  • Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
  • Guide reproduction wisely – improving fitness and diversity.
  • Unite humanity with a living new language.
  • Rule passion – faith – tradition – and all things with tempered reason.
  • Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
  • Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
  • Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
  • Balance personal rights with social duties.
  • Prize truth – beauty – love – seeking harmony with the infinite.
  • Be not a cancer on the Earth – Leave room for nature – Leave room for nature.

Basically, a freethinker version of the Ten Commandments tablets.

Openly advocating genocide and eugenics? Yeah, definitely not what I would call useful
If you read “Guide reproduction wisely - improving fitness and diversity” as eugenics and genocide, I think you might be jumping the gun a bit based on personal biases. Population bottlenecks require you to be very careful about species-wide gene pools. In a population of 10,000, you don’t want Cletus reproducing with his first cousin.

The only way you get a "population bottleneck" of 500 million from our current 8 billion is genocide. Even the world population in 1980 when these were erected was 4.5 billion. Still would have required genocide.

"Guiding reproduction" is definitely a euphemism for eugenics. Don't be naive.

Or nuclear near-annihilation, which was a definite concern when these were erected. Or a pandemic.

Imagine believing in a world where 90% of the human population is annihilated by some calamity, and the survivors have the psychological capacity to focus on anything other than basic survival and repopulation.

Utopian fantasyland. Believing things like this requires deliberate ignorance of the nature of human beings and pretty much all of human history. It's magical thinking

I'll take nature over 7.5 billion people including myself. What we've done to this planet is shameful and never should have gotten to this point.

We are nature.

Were the cyanobacteria responsible for the oxygen crisis guilty? Plants contributed to the first of the five major recognized extinction events: https://www.sciencealert.com/the-arrival-of-tree-roots-may-have-triggered-mass-extinctions-in-the-ocean

The first major difference with us is that we're capable of being aware of how our presence changes the environment, and therefore of changing our behavior. So I think you think both too highly and not well enough of us.

The Arrival of Tree Roots May Have Triggered Mass Extinctions in The Ocean

The first land plants to evolve penetrating root systems, around 400 million years ago, may very well have triggered a series of mass extinctions in the ocean.

ScienceAlert
Bacteria don't have the capability to be aware of what they were doing. Neither do plants. People do. That's all that matters.
Yes, that's my entire point. We have the capacity to change what we're doing and we are. I'm sorry it's not happening fast enough to satisfy you, but it is happening
It is not happening at all.
Have we made any progress on climate change? - The Progress Network

Yes. We're not on track for 1.5 degrees Celsius of warming, but we're in a very different place than we were even five years ago.

The Progress Network
Too little too slow too late.
20% reduction is still 6 trillion metric tons of greenhouse gases
https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/inventory-us-greenhouse-gas-emissions-and-sinks
Lol it mentions carbon capture.
You should be getting angry instead of desperately clinging to bullshit hope.
Inventory of U.S. Greenhouse Gas Emissions and Sinks | US EPA

The national greenhouse gas inventory is developed each year to track trends in U.S. emissions and removals. Find emissions by source, economic sector and greenhouse gas.

US EPA
Why not both? Anger doesn't require hopelessness
Never said did

"angry instead of clinging to hope"

Literally you just did lol