PeerTube has a federation problem

https://lemmy.film/post/380681

PeerTube has a federation problem - Lemmy.film

With the mass migrations of Reddit users to Lemmy/Kbin, and Twitter now speedrunning its own mass extinction, it seems me that the eventual future of social media is de-centralized. I like how Lemmy is slowing turning out, even if it still has some work to do and growing pains to fix up. It’s still able to inform me of all of the current events I want and has a large enough community that it doesn’t feel empty. I think a similar path will present itself for a de-centralized video media platform like PeerTube, since YouTube will eventually piss off enough of its users to cause a similar kind of exodus. Wanting to jump in on the concept at an early stage, I signed up for a channel on spectra.video [https://spectra.video/c/metastatistical.pt] and uploaded my video collection there. But, I don’t really see the same kind of community and usefulness on PeerTube. I check out the Discover and Trending pages, and it just seems like the same set of videos, really. There’s not enough content to keep PeerTube from looking like a small indie project. I can click on Recently Added and it is usually other people just dumping their channel collections, instead of recent adds of new videos. It’s very easy to scroll down and find videos from months ago. After poking around on various other PeerTube sites, I think I found the real problem with the platform: Federation. For example, let’s look at how federated Lemmy’s community is: * Lemmy.ml [https://lemmy.ml/instances] * Beehaw.org [https://beehaw.org/instances] * Lemmy.world [https://lemmy.world/instances] * Sh.itjust.works [https://sh.itjust.works/instances] * Lemmy.film [https://lemmy.film/instances] All interconnected with hundreds and hundreds (if not thousands) of other instances. If you sign up for one Lemmy account, you have little risk in not being able to access a remote community elsewhere. It feels like a federated community, where everything is de-centralized, but communication is linked everywhere. I can even link to my own video channel from Lemmy [https://lemmy.film/c/[email protected]]. Now, look at PeerTube’s instance lists, based on what I’ve seen on the Join PeerTube site [https://joinpeertube.org/en_US]: * Spectra.video [https://spectra.video/about/follows] * TILvids [https://tilvids.com/about/follows] (basically non-existent) * Neat.tube [https://neat.tube/about/follows] * Video.blender.org [https://video.blender.org/about/follows] * BassPistol [https://v.basspistol.org/about/follows] * Diode.zone [https://diode.zone/about/follows] * FTV [https://fediverse.tv/about/follows] * PeerTube.io [https://peertube.io/about/follows] * Review.PeerTube.biz [https://review.peertube.biz/about/follows] It’s all so bare. At most, 80-90 instances for some sites. I can’t see a lot of other instances’ videos, and they can’t see mine. Not from here [https://tilvids.com/c/[email protected]/videos] or here [https://neat.tube/c/[email protected]/videos] or here [https://video.blender.org/c/[email protected]/videos] or here [https://peertube.io/c/[email protected]/videos] or here [https://review.peertube.biz/c/[email protected]/videos] or here [https://videos.pair2jeux.tube/c/[email protected]/videos] or here [https://video.postchat.io/c/[email protected]/videos] or here [https://tube.spdns.org/c/[email protected]/videos]. It makes PeerTube a large collection of small silos, instead of a real federated community. People want to be able to sign on to an instance and find the content they want without having to jump through all of these different instances. Subscription feeds rely on having a unified list from many different instances. The technology has a lot of potential, but the PeerTube community is not nearly as organized as the rest of the Fediverse. This sounds like a somewhat simple problem to solve, but I’m not sure what other kind of technological hurdles exist. How did the Lemmy community solve it?

I still don’t understand the content that you can find on there. Can I find commentary videos from my favorite YouTubers on there? Music videos? Music theory videos? Meme videos? Is it all only educational stuff or technojargon coding nonsense?
You won’t find youtube content on there. Like with reddit and lemmy, creators and users have to switch to bolster engagement.
Okay, but what channels are there to watch?
To be frank i haven’t found much use for peertube yet. All my creators are still on youtube. If you’re interested in linux, gaming and open source there are the linux experiment, gaming on linux, the linux cast and Veronica explains but they all mirror their videos from youtube.
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TILvids
I don’t know what Linux is or how it works, so no thanks.