BaylahooWhy don't schools simulate a typical 9 to 5 work week for students and remove homework entirely?
The homework aspect in theory helps with the University structure.
Cynicism: also primes for the need to bring work home and be available off the clock.
This exactly demonstrates my mindset.
As someone who is getting ready to work at 9pm on a Sunday night…what’s this clock you speak of?
Yes, but also: In a lot of professions you have a lot of freedom regarding when you work. I’m browsing lemmy now, and getting to work at around 10, but I worked late on Friday, and I’m probably going to be answering some mails after dinner today.
I think this is just going to become more common: Not paying people for for the time they are at work, but rather for the job they do. That means that if you prefer to work 9-5, thats fine, but if you prefer to leave earlier or start later, and get some of your work done in the afternoon/weekends, thats also fine, as long as you get the job done.
I very much enjoy having that freedom. Even though it means I may be expected to pull longer days every now and then, it also means nobody questions me for leaving early when the weather is nice.
I guess that’s another suspect of eating away people’s time. If university takes more than 8 hours then it is also in question. If people want to be subjected to work outside of their 8 hour window, they should be allowed. Forcing this is crazy.
As a university academic, part of the issue is precisely that university students, at least young ones, have no idea that they are supposed to treat it as a full time job. Most university students have no idea how to maintain a good working schedule, schedule work time, schedule time to do problem sets, etc.
The successful university students are often those who come back from job placements and then actually understand what it means to work.
Anyways coming to the original question of homework in school, in principle I don’t see an issue with it. Learning takes time to absorb and students must learn how to reflect and study outside of the classroom.
In practice this rarely works because teachers treat it as a dumping ground for rote learning that they didn’t/couldn’t implement in the classroom.
I agree that from what I’ve heard, the sort of “homework” kids are assigned with aren’t fit for purpose.
The thing about university “requiring” people to work more than 8 hours is this: It’s not a human right to become a system architect, physicist or engineer. Universities typically don’t require more than 8 hours per day, but a lot of studies in practice require more than 8 hours if you want to be able to get through them. Relaxing the requirements for passing a degree would mean less competent professionals leaving the universities, and I don’t think anyone getting on a plane or going into surgery wants that.
Perhaps. But only the last 2-4 years. No student below high school should have homework (there is research to back this up). And they can do it in study hall, not necessarily at home. College courses have like half the class time, so professors hit the hard parts and expect students to read and get the rest on their own.
JetpackJacksonNo student below high school should have homework (there is research to back this up). Might I ask what research? Could you give me a source or two? I’m rather intrigued by this
I found a summary, but the link to the research is broken:
A lot of schools are going to this model now, at least in Texas around me. Texas requires interventions if kids fail the STAAR (the statewide test they take that shows they know the material they’ve learned during the school year) so a lot of schools have built in an intervention period (or whatever the campus calls it) to give those kids the intervention time. My kid doesn’t need intervention so they just do their homework during that time. They can sign up to go to certain teachers to get help, too. And a lot of schools/teachers have gotten away from assigning homework, since it just punishes the kids who don’t have support st home.