inspectorJul 29, 2023

While Android as a whole continues to shrink in the US, Google Pixel keeps growing

https://gadgetro.id/post/2682

While Android as a whole continues to shrink in the US, Google Pixel keeps growing - gadgetro.id

Android is struggling to keep its market share in the United States, as Apple continues to take over in the market. But, despite Android as a whole losing ground, Google Pixel phones are becoming a bigger slice of the US market. Counterpoint Research reports that, in Q2 2023, US smartphone shipments dropped by 24% year-over-year. That includes both iPhones and Android phones, and virtually every brand saw a drop in shipments. Samsung saw US shipments drop by 37% while Motorola saw a 17% drop. TCL saw the biggest decline at just shy of 70% year-over-year, and even Apple saw a 6% drop.

Show threadScrivenerXJul 29, 2023

I use a pixel and I have a hard time justifying a different phone.

Maybe things have changed but the last Samsung I had was an S7 and I didn’t like it. It suffered from bloat and didn’t last all that long. Battery issues and the screen started to lose sensitivity.

I’ve used iphones and they aren’t bad, but I really dislike apple’s app store and effort to control everything on my phone. Also everytime a new phone came out my old phone became next to unusable for a month.

I got a pixel 3 and loved it, now I have a pixel 6 and don’t see changing my phone any time soon or going to a non-pixel phone. They last a long time, they work well with everything and the camera is excellent.

Show threadVery_Bad_JanetJul 29, 2023
Can you explain what you mean by bloat with the s7? I have that and like my phone, just wondering why others don't.
Show threadUnhealthyPersonaJul 29, 2023
I remember having an S6 and it come with so many apps preinstalled that you can’t uninstall. There’s the default Google/android apps which is fine because those are the basics. Then Samsung puts a bunch of their own apps on there that basically duplicates a bunch of these and can’t be uninstalled, and then there’s other bloat apps like Facebook, maybe candy crush or some shit, maybe Netflix, that all can’t be uninstalled. The worst offender is Facebook because it was on almost any other phone not running stock android but supposedly had deeper privileges as a “system” app
Show threadWhirlybirdJul 30, 2023

There’s the default Google/android apps which is fine because those are the basics.

And this is the problem, and it’s absurd that google haven’t been stopped from doing this by any anti-competition regulators. Samsung don’t want google apps on their phones, they have to have them. Samsung make their own, and they’re often better than googles and are far more integrated into the OS.

Show threadHughJanusJul 30, 2023
They don’t have to have them. Mine doesn’t.
Show threadWhirlybirdJul 30, 2023
They have to from the factory.
Show threadHughJanusJul 30, 2023
No. They don’t.
Show threadWhirlybirdJul 30, 2023
What Samsung phones come without google apps and google play services installed?
Show threadHughJanusJul 30, 2023
None of them.
Show threadWhirlybird
So you’re just contradicting yourself then, and admitting it…….
Jul 30, 2023 at 3:28pmWeb
Show threadHughJanusJul 30, 2023
…nope
Show threadWhirlybirdJul 30, 2023

No I’m not. They have to have them because google forces them on all phones that have google play services.

You seem confused. Do you even understand what’s being discussed here?

Samsung do not sell a single phone that doesn’t have all the google bloat apps on it. You can’t remove them. You disagreed, then agreed, then disagreed within 3 posts.

Show threadHughJanusJul 30, 2023

They have to have them because google forces them on all phones that have google play services.

No they don’t.

You seem confused. Do you even understand what’s being discussed here?

Samsung do not sell a single phone that doesn’t have all the google bloat apps on it.

You’re the one who is confused. I’ve been saying the same thing the whole time: that “Google bloat” is not required. I know because I don’t have it and have removed it from several devices.

You keep reiterating that none of them don’t have this Google software, as if it contradicts the previous statement, but it does not.

Once again, having this software doesn’t mean that they have to have this software.

This is the last time I’ll be repeating myself.

Show threadWhirlybirdJul 31, 2023

No they don’t.

They literally do. It’s part of the licensing for using Google Play Services.

androidauthority.com/google-oem-licensing-345806/

In other words, if you really want just Google Play on your handset, too bad. In order to get the Play Store, an OEM has to agree to install all the other ‘required’ Google apps including Google Voice Search, Gmail, Google Calendar, Google Talk (now Hangouts), Google Maps and so on.

I’ve been saying the same thing the whole time: that “Google bloat” is not required. I know because I don’t have it and have removed it from several devices.

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