mrmanagerJul 27, 2023

Brave will not add Web Integration support

https://lemmy.today/post/158549

Brave will not add Web Integration support - Lemmy Today

I think we need all support we can get to fight Google on this, so I welcome Brave here actually. Use this link to avoid going to Twitter: https://nitter.kavin.rocks/BrendanEich/status/1684561924191842304 [https://nitter.kavin.rocks/BrendanEich/status/1684561924191842304]

Show threadmtchristoJul 28, 2023
The DRM will be so interwoven into the core engine that they won’t be able to remove it. chromium is a sinking ship
Show threaddangblingus
Chromium is open source. Brave can just fork it.
Jul 28, 2023 at 2:24pmWeb
Show thread4z01235Jul 28, 2023

“Just” fork it. Right.

It’s a massive undertaking to maintain a fork of something that large and continue pulling in patches of later developments.

Show threadfernandofigJul 28, 2023
Did you read the tweet from Brendan Eich linked in the OP? According to him, Brave already is a fork, and he provides a link to a (surprisingly) extensive list of things that are removed / disabled from chromium on their browser.
Show threadfartsparklesJul 28, 2023
This is correct - any “Chromium-based” browser is literally a fork unless it’s completely unchanged from upstream (even rebranding and changing the logo and name would require maintaining a fork).
Show thread4z01235Jul 28, 2023

Sure. And the further a fork diverges from upstream the more difficult maintenance becomes. My point is that relying on the open source model to fork projects making hostile changes only works so long as the community is actually able to maintain the fork(s), and so long as those forks actually have a reasonable chance of being adopted. It’s equally important, if not even more important, to try to ensure these large projects steer in consumer friendly directions than to react and fork to try to remove anti-consumer features.

Google has enough market and mind share that they can push this and it’s a real risk of becoming an anti-consumer standard regardless of any attempts to maintain a fork.

Show threadyounityJul 28, 2023

People that have been living as the bottom 99% their whole life and they keep telling others to “fork” or “make your own twitter” if you don’t like it…

I see your point, change needs to happen at the top and the idea that 99% telling other 99% to fork it make their own whatever, is so beyond the pale that this needs to be re-evaluated by all.

Show threaddantheclammanJul 28, 2023
That may be true, but it’s a fork where I doubt any company has the capability to do the engine development needed to be totally independent from Google. There is a reason Apple and Mozilla are the only two alternative engines left. It costs a lot to develop a browser
Show threadSyntheadJul 29, 2023
“Don’t like it? Just fork it!” is the software equivalent of “Are you sad? Just be happy!”
Show threadiopqJul 29, 2023
What do you mean Brave “can” fork it? It’s already a fork.
Show threaddangblingusAug 1, 2023
Yes, and Brave employs software developers that do this sort of thing as a primary task of their job.