I would like to see some numbers.

When it came time to replace an old car a few years ago I actually discounted several EVs because on paper neither the range, nor the performance, nor the charging matched up to Tesla.

I discounted Tesla because I didn’t like the way a certain CEO went about their business and so couldn’t trust the company.

Looking at this, I should have just bought the EV I wanted back then and been done with it.

You shouldn’t have bought an EV unless you plan to use it solely for driving around a city.

How often do you take road trips? The vast majority of trips taken by car are within 20–30 km. An average EV range can easily cover most people’s daily driving needs.

Of course. If you have averagely 20-30 km trips and charge the vehicle overnight, EVs are good. However, when you travel more kilometers and need to charge more than 0 times on the way to your destination, you waste many hours.

Have you actually road tripped an EV? You don’t waste “many hours” you spend like 15 minutes every 200 miles charging while you piss and walk your dog.

I more than once have done 600+ miles in a day in the lowest-range Tesla available. It’s just fine.

yes, you spend ideally 15 minutes, realistically more. With a gasoline car, I spend around 5

Here’s the duration of my last 5 fast charging stops, pulled from an app that logs everything my car does:

8 minutes 12 minutes 13 minutes 5 minutes 14 minutes

“realistically” i’m having sub-15 minute charge sessions almost every time. Not to mention this goes back a couple months, since I charge at home every night.

If you drive 600km without stopping to piss, maybe a gas car is for you, but I’m not that miserable.

That’s 52 minutes. With a gasoline car you can have a 5 minute stop.

I don’t drive for 600 km without a break but I also don’t need to spend hours at petrol stations. I don’t know where you live but in my country and for my use case, an electric car is only viable if I also have one gasoline car.

It would mean a huge compromise for my needs. Getting an electric car is similar to getting a Unimog if you spend your time mostly at highways.

It’s also five different trips? Where I stopped for less than 15 minutes each trip?

I don’t know how to get you to understand that basically no one is spending hours at charging stations. I live in the midwestern US (a notably poor part of the country for EV infrastructure) and my only vehicle is an EV.