@hlabrande @alexch @meena @pezmico one of the issues with these schemes is that it's nigh impossible to measure their impact, and often the interventions themselves are too little too late. I remember one of these that gave closed metal wood-fire ovens to populations that relied on stone-built open wood-fire ovens to cook, because it was cheap enough to do, you could easily do it at scale. The idea was that the metal ovens were much more efficient and would require so much less wood, it would save a lot of carbon emissions directly and also save on deforestation, while simultaneously providing actual support to poor populations. A couple of years pass, and independent orgs notice they weren't seeing the reduction in deforestation they expected, they go in to check, and people were using both their new oven AND the old stone ones simultaneously, in order to prepare more food than they could cook before, because they actually needed it, but also burning even more wood than before.