Why does all of this alien stuff take place mostly in the USA?

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Why does all of this alien stuff take place mostly in the USA? - Lemmy.world

It occurred to me while reading about UFO whistleblower news. Why do the majority of UFO things occur in the United States rather than Russia, China, and other countries?

Because most of the crazy lunatics are in the US?
Idk, isn’t lunatics eveywhere?
The loudest and most confident lunatics are there
I think it’s more that they’ve been given the loudest megaphone. Think about how much other countries are exposed to American news and media and compare that to how much Americans listen to news and media from other countries.
Sure, but we have a huge chunk of the country inhabited mostly by tumbleweeds and people with less-than-awesome education. Plus, the concept of Area 51 has been around so long and has been so prolific it’s been constantly referenced in the mainstream, from Scooby-Doo to Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater.
Add to this the fact that we produce the most advanced aircraft. Many sightings are probably of military crafts.
We set ours on a pedestal and give them a megaphone though.
Funny enough yeah except in the Luna aka the moon.
It is just that the lunatics in the US have better internet and media access than most.

Consider these possibilities:

  • USA is considerably new country and built with no distinctive, ancient history and mythology of its own. As such, its people often grab every opportunity to produce a mythology they can consider their own. It makes them perceive as unnatural/supernatural things we, citizens of old world rationalize, or brush off as of little value.
  • USA is an experiment by whatever the “aliens” are, so it’s natural for them to supervise it with more interest than the rest of the world.
  • There are no aliens, it’s just USA itself testing new technologies of theirs.
  • Other superpowers are very secretive by default and they simply hush-hush every sighting they can.

Adding to this:

America is often the voice of media, being the home of, Hollywood, reality TV as well as the loudest voices on the internet it’s natural that we perceive that to be the home of Alien stories.

Being a ‘wealthy’ country: often a higher employment rate leads to an increase in extra curricular hobbies. Countries with less time to focus on things other than work will also have less time to expand on other interests. This can have a spin off effect of increased time spent day dreaming about lights in the sky.

America is a very new country. There’s lots to of vast open nothingness to explore. Considered a ‘frontier’. The concept of unexplored territory and unclaimed space of mystery is very much more engrained in American culture, unlike say anywhere in Europe where every square inch is claimed and has a city within an hour’s drive. All that empty nothingness with strange lights on the horizon can lead to more mysterious musings of what they might be.

It's the same reason all the aliens Doctor Who fights are always attacking Britain
An small criticism about your third point is the fact that the world isn’t the USA and Europe. There are many areas in the world with vast open areas. I do agree that in combination with the other factors it makes sense.
It’s a cultural thing? Maybe there are a disproportionate number of alien believers in the US so they are more likely to attribute odd sightings to aliens.
We even have conventions!
Possibly because the US defense industry dwarfs the rest of the world and is constantly testing new technology that can be confused for UFOs. Russia and China, while also having large defense industries, are nowhere near what the US spends.
We call it the F-16 Flying Saucer. Spins 360° to no-scope the target. Barf bags cost extra.
Also tagging onto this if there is a possibility of UFOs our defense radar systems are the only ones that would pick them up besides China’s.
I’d hesitate to say that beings capable of intergalactic travel couldn’t easily cloak/hide themselves from our primitive technology. An ant can’t, with all its sensory capabilities, tell that it’s staring at a car even if its standing right in front of it.
The real answer is that it doesn’t; you simply hear about it more. The other superpowers who are flying super-sonic jets around all day are much more secretive and if you think the retribution is bad here let me tell you it is worse in China or Russia. Also, people see these things with their naked eye all the time. Seriously, drive out to the mid-west and just look at the sky at night. You will see them up there, making their 90 degree turns and all. But the stigma is really so bad within our culture that people just don’t talk about it, and light pollution is so bad in the cities that you can’t see the sky anywhere near one.
The rest of the world is just jealous of our alien friends that sells us advanced aircraft in exchange for drugs from Mexico and Columbia.
Primary stargate is in Colorado so that's where the Goa'uld would strike first
Luckily we still have O’Neill!
Because we real dum.
The “flying saucer” phenomenon originated among American and British pilots, from the “foo fighters” of WWII to Kenneth Arnold’s widely publicized sightings. It then spread in the largely-American science-fiction scene and Hollywood-centric mass media.
Foo fighter - Wikipedia

Blame the science fiction magazines from the 50’s and 60’s. It really was a good time for scifi: Isaac Asimov, Arthur C Clarke, Kurt Vonnegut, Philip K Dick, Robert A Heinlein, Frank Herbert.
Sure — also L. Ron Hubbard, John W. Campbell, and many others who got involved personally in weird shit & pseudoscience of one sort or another.
One of the biggest events was in Varginha, Brazil.
  • Area 51 - a real USAF research facility where cutting edge aircraft were tested in the mid 20th century. People in the area truly did see Unidentified Flying Objects, in the sense that they saw aircraft the likes of which they had until then believed were impossible.
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Lazar who single-handedly reinvigorated the UFO conspiracy theories long after Area 51 had concluded most of its Cold War era secret tests.
  • Bob Lazar - Wikipedia

    I think its simply because we have a larger active military along with a freer media/speech. When you constantly have military jets in the air, ships on the sea, and satellites in space the chances of catching edge cases is just higher.

    with a freer media/speech.

    lol

    America has a lot, but not free media :)
    Your free speech is not exactly free. If you can get jailed for not singing propaganda song in a school, you don’t have free speech.
    It’s only oppression when it’s brown people /s
    I’ve never heard of someone getting jailed for not singing the anthem. Have an example?

    Generally others think aliens are probably already between us since we are not that special for being top specie on universe history.

    So aliens are not a big deal

    Yeah, aliens or Earth, like who cares? /s

    Interestingly, there’s a strong argument that we are one of the first, at least locally.

    Firstly, an infinite amount of time hasn’t passed. Time actually started at the big bang (Asking what was before is akin to asking what is north of the north pole).

    The big bang also didn’t create any heavy elements, these required stars to produce. The first generation of stars could not have supported life. Later generations of star each have more heavy elements available. These allow for the formation of rocky planets. Our sun is in the earlier phase of this.

    This leaves 2 questions. How long for life to evolve (all the way to technological intelligence)? And how easy is interstellar travel?

    Life on earth seemed to pop up almost as soon as it could. That could be normal, or it could be us winning the lottery on the first play. As for evolution speed, we have no clue for comparison.

    The 2nd is the critical one. As it stands, interstellar travel seems limited to the speed of light. This, and the cast energy requirements make interstellar travel and colonisation difficult. If a local species developed this ability, it is quite likely they reached us before now, and colonisated earth. The fact we can trace our evolution shows this likely didn’t happen. The chances of such a species turning up in the window of time we are in, is almost zero. The fact we exist, without alien overseers is evidence we have won the race, at least locally.

    Aliens amongst us? That is preposterous! Who told you this nonsens, give me there names. Seriously, they need to be dealt with.
    Usa’s society is very susceptible to conspiracy theories in general, and the UFO story is one. The question whether there are actually aliens or not, steps back behind the conspiracy accusation against government/secret services/etc.

    This is an interesting point. I know the military pushed the narrative back in the 50s about UFOs to hide their military tech and it snowballed (successfully?) from there.

    Does the Chinese populace have an attraction toward conspiracy theories or UFOs?

    Does the Chinese populace have an attraction toward conspiracy theories or UFOs?

    No, not at all.

    There’s also the fact that mainstream news in most countries consist of 50% local and 50% US news.

    Well this is this right here is some “Shit Americans say”.

    No, no it isn’t. Fuck right off with this bullshit.

    Maybe I’m misunderstanding, but I’m talking from experience watching European tv news, especially during the election cycle.
    You mean the one time every 4 years that American events have an impact on them?
    I mean the 2 year drum up to elections so that even my nan who doesn’t speak a word of English knows all of the candidates. US is also on the front of the culture wars as well as popular entertainment, so there’s a lot of that as well. Anyway, I’m sharing my personal experience and don’t feel like there’s a need to argue about that, if your local TV presents you a balanced world view great for you.
    Unless your region has oil…
    If you pull back all the layers of this onion you will most likely find out its just humans manipulating a situation to fund secret projects and funnel money into private corporations. It happens elsewhere as well but mostly under other different veils.
    Dont forget, a distraction from all of our countries and planets verry real problems!
    Schizos, opioids, conspiracy nutjobs, lead poisoning and low education multiplied by spiritual bankruptcy. Deny it all you want, Yanks, but it’s true.
    Religion is missing. You believe a guy walked on water, based on a book, written by goat fuckers 2000 years ago, you’ll believe just about anything.
    Sadly, religion is everywhere.
    Jokes on you it’s not… OK who let religion in my hummus? It’s damn good but I just wanted hummus
    Religion is a natural byproduct of curiosity and being gullible

    The short answer is that it doesn’t. I think some of the most compelling cases I’ve seen have come out of South America, east Asia, and Europe.

    The long answer (is really just speculation on my part) the US dumps so much money into defense that the citizens don’t have healthcare, education, or decent social services. The USA is the richest nation on earth and many billions of dollars spent on defense are classified or unaccounted for. It seems likely to me that the US is one of the only nations with a program in place to study any recovered craft so any of our allies would likely send materials/craft to the US to be studied.

    Here’s a fun website that shows just how bonkers US military spending is compared to the rest of the world. Click the “Charts” tab under the maps for a clearer picture of what’s going on. ourworldindata.org/military-personnel-spending
    Military Personnel and Spending

    How large are countries’ militaries? How much do they spend on their armed forces? Explore global data on military personnel and spending.

    Our World in Data
    Yes some more instruction for the lazy. Go to charts then scroll over to the military expenditure. If you look through all the charts you’ll see that the only other nation that rivals US military spending is China.