Pepo48In 1992, Sinead O'Connor tore a picture of Pope John Paul II in half during a performance on SNL in protest against generations of abuse toward children within the Catholic church.
And she was vilified for it. Ahead of her time.
Then she joined a cult based around venerating a pedophile prophet.
30 years later, after some very public mental health struggles. She was a humanitarian with a big heart and a lot of courage. Don’t try a take away from a dead woman’s accomplishments because of personal choices toward the end of her life.
Oh no judging a person by… their actions.
She died a hypocrite.
b00mYou seem like a person who has no grasp on the nuances of life
She studied theology and was the victim of institutional abuse, she was better educated on this than most and sought out a higher purpose. I can’t denigrate her for that. I’m an atheist but I won’t judge someone who sought refuge from an abusive and horrible past.
That’s one description, but in context it’s misleading. If we wanted to talk about Christianity or Judaism we could look at the Bible and find shocking things there as well. And maybe we should. But that’s a totally different discussion from bad things that the Catholic Church did in the 1900s.
I’m not interested in a game of whataboutism.
She willingly joined a cult that worships a pedophile after calling out a cult for shielding pedophiles from justice.
That’s as straight forward and in context as it gets.
You literally started the whatsboutism in your original comment there buddy lol
I stated a fact, if you have issues with reality I suggest you see a psychiatrist.
So did I. Here’s another one: you don’t know what whatsboutism is.
Just out of curiosity, what do you suggest I’d tell a psychiatrist? That I have a fear of facts or something? I’m incredibly curious how your toxic little mind works.
It’s better to just downvote, really. You are always running the risk that you’re helping a troll earn his paycheque. I’m sure this fellow is not being paid, he seems very dedicated to dunking on mentally ill women on a personal level.
do you think that her joining islam (and by extension her comments about non-muslims) was a result of her mental illness?
That’s cute.
EhListA religion with over a billion followers is not a cult.
All religions are cults.
By the way are you counting all the different sects as a singular group? In some places the cultists would kill you for that.
No they are not and it’s an ignorant claim to make. You can leave a religion without the members having to cut ties with you and religions tend to not care if you have individually given money. Cults disfellowship people who leave and are very focused on your donations.
Given how ignorant you are over what a cult vs religion is I don’t think you should be generalizing about any one religion’s beliefs.
it’s not like apostasy is a requirement for the definition of a cult.
depending on which of the dictionary definitions you’re going by, a cult could be anything from a religious system of veneration for a figure, to a group with extreme beliefs outside of that of an established religion.
to me it seems like the only common denominator for all of the definitions is that the group is smaller than that of a religion.
And thus we are back to my point that a group containing 1/8th of all people isn’t a cult
Jesus was a hippy, who whipped scammers at a temple. Mohommed raped a nine year old and was a warlord.
Exactly. You’re trying to compare things that people probably did 1500+ years ago with things that happened in our lifetimes. There’s no way to attain justice for actions that happened over a millennia ago, and it doesn’t really make sense to try.
If you want to convince people that organized religion is shit, I think you have a lot of good ammunition on hand, including some of the things that you mentioned. I’m not sure you’re going to turn people off to Islam by mentioning that Muhammad was a warlord, though.
They still worship him, hell they still add “Peace be unto him” after his name, a man who ordered murders.
Blocked my first user on Lemmy!
She said "Fight the real enemy" while tearing up the pic.
She was ahead of her time and extremely strong. Doing the right thing was more important to her than money. RIP.
watsonI remember that…
Ireland got proper fucked by the church it seems. There was a “Behind the bastards” episode about it. Highly recommended if you want to get mad
Everywhere the Catholic church has ever been, it’s consistently fucked everyone over. It is a leviathan of abuse and harmful politics.
Joe pesci did a SNL special the following week after that where he threatened to beat the shit out of Sinead. Makes me lose much of the respect I had for the man.