petsoiRethinking Window Management – Space and Meaning
Jumper775This is really exciting and really cool! I can’t wait to try this out should it come to be
xxdWow, this is great stuff! I’d love to try this, but I get that it’s still a bit away from being a usable prototype. I’ll definitely keep my eyes peeled for this.
Hmm, the Mosaic concept is quite interesting, but I feel like, personally, I wouldn’t want to use it over traditional tiling.
For example, my workflow does involve moving windows to a new workspace to have them maximized, but I do that very deliberately. I want control over which workspaces are next to each other, so I can quickly switch between related applications.
But I am usually on a smaller screen, so:
- I’m not really affected by the overly large windows, they’re trying to resolve,
- I need lots of workspaces and that predictable navigation between them to fit all the windows, and
- I would encounter the screen-full edge cases with Mosaic layouting quite regularly.
Then again, they do have the idea here that if the screen is full, it will basically switch to traditional tiling. If on small screens, the screen is pretty much always full, and if the traditional tiling works well, then all my objections would be void. 🙃
Pasta DentalAs long as this can be toggled on or off I am fine with it! I will certainly use it on my laptop, but on my desktop, I find it kinda hard to switch workspaces with the keyboard shortcuts, and since the mosaic concept makes heavy use of the workspaces, I don’t think I could use it on desktop… Unless I get a trackpad (which I am heavily considering after using gnome with my laptop, the gestures are just that good)
I also love that GNOME tries to be its own thing, and not another Windows clone to attract Windows users. This prevents deceiving them into thinking “hey it looks just like Windows but its free, so it must work the same!” then bricking their systems. Having a completely different “Linux OS”/branding will help make the distinction that Linux is not Windows, the same way Windows users don’t expect MacOS to work like Windows, since they look and behave so differently
I just love that on the Linux desktop this kind of innovation is possible. They are paving the way for an entirely new desktop experience and I’m so excited to see where this goes!
Loved it
GenBlobStuff like this is why I love Linux. Without ideas like this we would be using the same old boring windows desktop for the rest of our lives. I’m all for GNOME experimenting with new ways to manage windows.
The biggest reason for me being excited about System76’s new DE is that they’ll implement 1st class tiling support. Tiling being only possible through extensions on Gnome comes with limitations/bugs I don’t experience on the likes of sway and hyprland.
That’s why I’m really happy to see work going into native tiling on Gnome and I’ll surely give it a go once some working prototype is available.
Yea, this would really be a step forward, but also a step out of the comfort zone of some newcomers. We haven’t seen much but I hope it won’t be to aggressive so problems like described in the article, where windows get to big, or to small wont happen.
The biggest hurdle is application support. Gnome apps might be quite convergent andigjt even support this new “max size” API but most cross-platform apps probably won’t.
So hopefully they’ll also develop ways for this to work well for apps that don’t provide any info.
Add that and integrate dash to dock.
Beko PharmKinda missing any word on corner cases like multihead setups and fake “fullscreen” (e.g. for braindead games having ideas about screen layouts not offering full sized display resolutions). Both are still a pain in the neck especially when combined. The current system works okay-ish (with gamescope solving one of the worst headaches, no more fiddling with virtual displays that extend over all real displays).
For coding e.g. I often wish vscode to span over several displays. I’d start jumping in circles in anger if something would mess with a carefully aligned size and tabs inside of it automatically ruining the initial “sorting work”.
Seems very interesting