Rod HiltonJul 25, 2023

Film studios: Pirating films is bad because it prevents all the hardworking people who make these films from being paid.

Also film studios: Streaming is good because it prevents all the hardworking people who made these films from being paid, except us.

LOL avast matey, I'm in the clearrrrrrr.

Show threadSeanJul 26, 2023
@rodhilton That’s rubbish. Streaming companies pay the film studios who pay streaming royalties.
Show threadMelvin GundlachJul 26, 2023
@Craktok @rodhilton Just like OP said. The streaming royalties that make it to the people actually involved in the creation of the movie are so small, that they effectively don’t exist.
Show threadSeanJul 26, 2023
@melgu @rodhilton so you’re happy to steal their work so they get nothing at all???
Show threadMelvin GundlachJul 26, 2023
@rodhilton @Craktok Where did I say that? I’m just saying that it basically doesn’t make a difference in a world where the main actors of a popular show only receive at most around 30 $ of streaming royalties per year. You can imagine how laughable the amount will be for anyone else.
Show threadSean
@melgu @rodhilton well that’s the conclusion the OP reached and you said his conclusion was right.
Jul 26, 2023 at 2:10pmWeb
Show threadMelvin GundlachJul 26, 2023
@rodhilton @Craktok I said it’s like the OP said and meant their analysis of film studios. And while I don’t condone piracy, I also don’t really fault anyone in this specific context since it doesn’t make a difference anyway.
Show threadSeanJul 26, 2023
@melgu whereas I do condemn piracy as it’s the theft. No matter how you guys try to dress it up.
Show threadMelvin GundlachJul 26, 2023
@Craktok Now we can get technical if copying something for personal use is actually stealing. But in the end, I don’t care if someone steals from billionaires as long as those billionaires keep stealing from everyone around them.
Show threadSeanAug 1, 2023
@melgu there’s no technicality involved. Stealing is stealing. You don’t get to decide who it’s ok to steal from. People steal and should just admit that it’s because they want to. Not try and dress it up in some altruistic bullshit.
Show threadMelvin GundlachAug 1, 2023
@Craktok If you think the law decides morality and ethics, I’d disagree, but even then, in many countries downloading music and movies from so called pirate sites is legal, and therefore not stealing.
Show threadSeanAug 2, 2023
@melgu what are you talking about??? What has “morality and ethics” got to do with the law of the land??? It’s black and white. And yes stealing is illegal which is why piracy websites get shutdown and people arrested (unless they’re based in a country with no extradition).
Show threadMelvin GundlachAug 2, 2023

@Craktok I just think there can be differences between what’s *allowed* and what’s *right*.

There exist lots of countries where uploading such content is illegal, but in pretty much no country downloading is illegal. So the act of downloading is not stealing.

Show threadSeanAug 2, 2023
@melgu I still don’t think you get it. The law doesn’t care how YOU want to interpret it, it’s black and white. Sharing of commercial content is illegal in most first world countries and that’s where I live, in a first world country.
Show threadMelvin GundlachAug 2, 2023
@Craktok Like I said. If you purely go by the definition of the law, then downloading isn’t illegal in many countries (e.g. Germany, where I live), therefore not stealing.
Show threadSeanAug 4, 2023
@melgu sharing copyrighted content is illegal. So hence stealing.
Show threadMelvin GundlachAug 4, 2023
@Craktok So let’s agree that sharing is stealing, but downloading / streaming that content, like the OP talked about, is not.
Show threadSeanAug 5, 2023
@melgu let’s agree not to be involved in handling stolen content.