@incitatus Be careful though, some SAG-AFTRA members are insanely rich
@ostrich Hear me out:
1. In each case their bosses are probably richer;
2. We can support good causes without supporting every individual who claims to be espousing that cause.
@incitatus
@haq @incitatus Agreed, however, if we're not researching the nuances and instead proceeding by vibes, it doesn't help us dispel the canard that unions are overpaid cartels that are stealing from the public. Which is actively promoted by ruling class toadies who point at Ben Affleck and say "this is who you're striking for??"
@ostrich - SAG-AFTRA is not in dispute with its members.
@incitatus I didn't say that they were. Did you misunderstand what I'm saying? My point is that SAG-AFTRA is on strike and as a result they as a union are being attacked by the producers' cartel- among the accusations is that some actors are rich and thus the union shouldn't be trusted. If we operate solely by the _optics_ of _rich people_ nobody is more _visibly rich_ than celebrity actors.

@ostrich

I completely understood that you deliberately (and repeatedly, now) glossed over the word "dispute", which means your point is specious in this context.

@incitatus If there's something wrong with my interpretation of what you said, it would be far more helpful for you to make a basic attempt to explain what you meant (like I have done) instead of condescendingly declaring that my point is irrelevant with minimal detail.

On the other hand you're absolutely entitled to be mad and hostile online, just let me know so I can mute you to prevent any further interaction.

@ostrich

I see that Mastodon is not immune to a tedious infestation of condescending edgelords desperately seeking attention and/or validation.

If you choose to find the simple factual statements I make "mad and hostile", that's on you and your limitations. I suggest you actually look up the word "specious", rather than redefining it.

Making real arguments is more of a skill than just trying to score rhetorical points. You should learn it.

Don't worry about muting me - you'll be blocked.

@incitatus

Sounds reliable to me.

When I was a local elected official, there were a few folks who regularly came to our public input sessions to speak on proposed resolutions. Before too long, I knew who was who, and was able to learn the publicly available biographies of each.

It took me only a few weeks into my term before I could be sure of which side I was on by taking note of what the monied interests wanted, and just doing the opposite.