Google owes $338.7 mln in Chromecast patent case, US jury says

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Google owes $338.7 mln in Chromecast patent case, US jury says - Sopuli

Google spokesperson Jose Castaneda said on Monday that the company will appeal the verdict and has “always developed technology independently and competed on the merits of our ideas.”

Bull. Good for them, glad the small guy won out, hopefully it doesn’t get overturned on appeals. Google/Microsoft/Amazon/Apple have always stolen IP once they got big enough, usually with the hopes of either A) buying the little guy out or B) running them out of business. Glad the little guy one out for once.

Google doesn’t need me to defend them, but the patents in question seem really generic and obvious…

Play control of content on a display device Play control of content on a display device Play control of content on a display device

All filed in 2011.

Patent trolls aren’t the little guy, nor are they a good thing for the little guys out there.

US8356251B2 - Play control of content on a display device - Google Patents

A system for presenting and controlling content on a display device includes a network, a server system coupled to the network and comprising one or more servers, a display device coupled to the network and having a display, and a personal computing device operable to transmit a first message according to a specified format over the network to the server system. The server system stores an association between the personal computing device and the display device. The first message identifies user-selected content and a media player to play the content. The server system is operable, in response to receiving the first message from the personal computing device, to provide to the display device a second message identifying the user-selected content and the media player to play the content. In response to receiving the second message, the display device is operable to obtain a first media player needed to play the content, to load the media player and to present the content on the display.

The full patent goes into much more detail of the process: image-ppubs.uspto.gov/dirsearch-public/…/8356251

Google didn’t even argue that they didn’t use this patented process. They tried (and failed) to argue that the patent was invalid.

Thanks for the link, but I provided links to all three patents (confusingly, with the same names) that they were making claims on in my reply.

The thing about patents is that they are regularly granted for blindingly obvious processes that should never be patentable. It’s not just companies like Google that get screwed by this, it’s individual developers, FOSS projects… All sorts.

The patent system is fundamentally broken.

Lmfao when I was looking at the Google links earlier (I found them myself in another comment) I didn’t scroll down to the full text on their page…

I don’t think this is blindingly obvious though. The obvious implementation would be to stream from the server to your phone, then your phone to the other screen. These patents detail a way of synchronising the devices and having the server stream directly to the screen, alongside your controlling device. That implementation might seem straightforward, but it is novel, if only because no one else had done it prior. If someone had done this prior to their application then maybe the patent could be invalidated, but that doesn’t seem to be the case.

The patent system definitely has its flaws, but I don’t think this patent is an example of that. They’re not sitting on the patent doing nothing, they have their own implementations that they’re selling, and were in negotiations with Google for them to use it. Google are just trying to get away without paying for things - just like they take our data and profit from that without paying us for producing it.