can't wait to buy it with Pullman dollars
can't wait to buy it with Pullman dollars
you can’t read for shit, throwing hissy fits every time you got mild criticism, and walking around like that stick up your ass is made of solid gold
Project much? I was accurate in my assessment the entire time: you’re the kind of person who brings their conclusion to a discussion, emotionally argues backwards from it, and tries to “win” by ridiculing their “opponent”. The fact that I’m ignoring sophistical window-dressing in favor of skipping to your actual meta point—and unmercifully making fun of you for being too dense to get it—does not make me a Nazi. The horrible truth is that despite feeling strongly, you’re really just wrong anyway, a phenomenon that I’m sure has happened one or two other times in your life. Maybe you should get a grip, or at least go deliberately misinterpret somebody who doesn’t see through it.
“I hate thinking!”
Like it’s something to brag about.
Villifying plants is on the nonsensical agenda as well (i.e. making mountains out of molehills over soy/phytoestrogens). But Tofu and other soybean foods have been staples across a huge chunk of East Asia for centuries and nobody’s been worse off for it (besides unlucky allergies). Funny enough, East Asia also has a few niche recipes for cooking bugs, and since my parents are from South Korea I occasionally ate steamed silkworm pupae as a kid. The weird earthy taste and general phobia of creepy crawlies is the reason it’s not too popular nowadays. I wasn’t a huge fan myself but I do see bug meat as a potential resource.
So it’s just the usual fearmongering over made-up problems. Plant protein is good, bug protein has existed as something I wouldn’t mind if it tastes alright, and the meat industry’s going to lobby for more subsidies and thrive regardless of what happens.
Hey, my cousin started a small business making cricket protein bars. They did taste good, but they absolutely were not for the poor.
Much more of a virtue signaling yuppy thing.
we have plenty of cheap protein which has grown from the earth since the dawn of time
It seems like people are willing to go to ANY length to avoid eating beans and nuts.
Rice and beans is for those poor people tho 😭 Missing the essential nutrient of “living things suffering” that I need to live. I mean how else do you explain to things that don’t speak that you’re better than them in every way? Rice and beans only feeds the weak ass flesh water balloon you control, killing feeds the ego.
I’d rather switch to eating Dung Beetles because I can’t dominate beans. The rice has no fog of war or technology tree. I don’t understand how people eat without just killing absolutely everything in their path. I personally stopped buying beef from the grocery stores and just started going out into the fields at night to drain blood out of cattle’s neck. I also really enjoy eating live squirrels and rats I find while navigating the city via sewers in order to avoid my vampiric form from being seen by those poor poor human people.
I hadn’t actually heard about lab-grown chicken, everything I’m read about has been beef. Vat chicken soup would be cool too.
Now, eggs might be more difficult
Apparently eggs have already been done, as has milk that can be turned into cheese
Although it’s a different process
Rather than grow them by duplicating existing cells, instead you GMO brewer’s yeast to produce the proteins you want, similar to how we make insulin now, and then add the few things you can’t get the yeast to provide (which with sufficient tinkering, is basically just the shell, and even that can be substituted with plastic containers)
What’s so nuts about eating insects? Lots of cultures do it.
How can one realize that gender is a social construct but still think that eating insects is “unnatural”?
Cultures of starvation. If rich Western countries were giving away all the perfectly good food they trash, I guarantee you eating arthropods would stop in a generation.
Yeah, sure, lobsters (which are also arthropods) only get eaten because people don’t have anything else. /s
You could also pretty fairly argue that the entire point of social constructs like society is to avoid shivering in the cold, being murdered for your shiny rocks, or eating insects.
Agreed. But you have not presented any reason for putting “eating insects” in the same category as “shivering in the cold” and “being murdered for your shiny rocks”. Some social constructs are useful, but they’re not useful by virtue of being social constructs.
Yeah, sure, lobsters (which are also arthropods) only get eaten because people don’t have anything else.
At first I thought you were being completely serious, but then I realized that you were being sarcastic after you told me, good thing you did! Anyway, lobsters were eaten because there was nothing else. Making them into a luxury dish is a modern affectation. That’s not an actual counterargument to the real point here, but it needed to be said.
Agreed. But you have not presented any reason for putting “eating insects” in the same category as “shivering in the cold” and “being murdered for your shiny rocks”. Some social constructs are useful, but they’re not useful by virtue of being social constructs.
My reason is the only reason that actually exists when it comes to the value of social constructs: consensus. Most people find eating vermin to be disgusting for some reason, and they avoid doing so if it doesn’t increase their likelihood of starving to death. Which is why you find this aversion to be less prevalent in cultures where famine and starvation exist right now and/or in living memory—and thanks to colonialism, there are a lot of deadly famines in living memory in the third world. I agree that social constructs don’t have any intrinsic value, but what difference does it make? Social constructs have the value people place on them, and that value can be imported from other places. Eating bugs is, to most people, disgusting. Like all value statements, this should be understood within its context as being a statement of arbitrary value that is supported by the consensus of a large plurality of people (though this one has majority support). Asking for quantification of it like “why is this a right thing to believe?” is just asking “why do we value what we value instead of valuing something else?”, to which the only actual answer that matters is “because it had to be something, and we got this”. But as I said, values get imported from elsewhere, like trauma or instinct, such as how European culture developed certain values around hygiene after and in response to the plagues. In my opinion it’s reasonable to assume that human beings are instinctively averse to writhing masses of disgusting vermin that are usually found in places like fetid bogs and putrid rotting corpses, and that we are far less averse to things that resemble our ancestral natural prey, like deer and geese.
Also, the idea of the comic as I interpreted it is that the upper class thinks pandering will trick poor people into enjoying eating bugs while they themselves continue to eat meat, which has a meta-point to it told through subtext, like all jokes do: that capitalists value having what other people don’t have, that they think the “poors” can be tricked out of it like simpletons, and that they think humiliating the poor and exploiting them in their humiliation is a virtue as long as it’s profitable. I would have explained this to the other guy arguing with me, but he gallantly resists being reasoned with and seems much happier nailing himself to the cross.
First, like the other thread said, eating bugy isn’t a conspiracy. It’s also not “subpar” or whatever, it’s… food.
Second, I never understand people’s aversion to… food that isn’t currently alive in your plate. I have eaten bugs, I’ve eaten a lot of plants, I’ve eaten a lot of different animals… it’s all just food.
The “cheap” bugs:
Lobster: 40$ per tail
Crab: 4-8$ per can
Shrimp: 5-12$ per lb
Uh huh.